Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
Author: mook
Date: 01-02-2010 - 16:10
I definitely agree with your last point. In fact, if it looks like all the money to be had for HSR in the foreseeable future is around $10B (bonds+some reasonable cut of the Feds) I think it would be best spent doing the Tehachapi portion of the HSR line tying back to Amtrak (BNSF) in Bakersfield and Metrolink at Lancaster - without wires for now. Amtrak trains could then get over the hill on their own (steeper but straighter and faster) line, though possibly needing 2 units instead of 1, providing a competitive service to the current bus connection. Until passenger traffic builds up more, you could probably rent a little space to intermodal trains. A downside is that there isn't much room for more than the current 6 Amtraks each way north of Bakersfield - would need considerable work on the Valley (BNSF) line to increase the number of trains even if the speeds (currently 79 most of the way) are left alone.
I see your point about the Coast and lack of freight interference. And if SP/UP did indeed reduce speeds and super then recovering that would allow some speed increase even with existing equipment. Yes, 10 hours SF/LA would be much more attractive than the current 13, and would allow a reasonable schedule for overnight travel. But if you could convince BNSF/UP to let you run something through Tehachapi in the wee hours I think you could get <12 hours SF/LA now via the Valley. Didn't those Starlight detours (granted, without all the usual stops) make it from Sac to LA in less than 8 hours?
My 10 mph speedup estimate for Talgo is on the low side, because I assumed no change in current tracks. If the line were beefed up and a few curves eased, you could probably get something closer to a 20 mph speedup (as was done in the PacNW). I still don't like the active tilting of the Acela, because of known reliability problems and the fact that you really don't need it unless you want near-HSR (>90 mph). For the kind of Coast traffic you're talking about, 60-79 would be good enough.
The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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Drew Jacksich |
12-30-2009 - 14:38 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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OPRRMS |
12-30-2009 - 15:20 |
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WAF |
12-30-2009 - 16:20 |
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George Andrews |
12-30-2009 - 16:58 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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photobob |
12-30-2009 - 17:36 |
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WAF |
12-30-2009 - 17:38 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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WAF |
12-30-2009 - 17:37 |
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OPRRMS |
12-30-2009 - 22:41 |
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WAF |
12-31-2009 - 07:12 |
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OPRRMS |
12-31-2009 - 13:14 |
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Dmac844 |
12-31-2009 - 19:06 |
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Sgt. Joe Friday |
12-31-2009 - 21:52 |
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George Andrews |
01-01-2010 - 10:42 |
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mook |
01-01-2010 - 10:44 |
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OldPoleBurner |
01-01-2010 - 18:30 |
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mook |
01-01-2010 - 19:57 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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OldPoleBurner |
01-02-2010 - 14:12 |
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mook |
01-02-2010 - 16:10 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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Sgt. Joe Friday |
01-02-2010 - 17:25 |
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George Andrews |
01-02-2010 - 18:27 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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OldPoleBurner |
01-03-2010 - 21:54 |
Re: The Last SP Train #75, The Lark April 8, 1968 at LA
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Ken Ruben |
01-05-2010 - 13:57 |