Re: Donner Pass Track 1
Author: Dr Zarkoff
Date: 02-17-2011 - 19:42

>That is why the remaining 132 HF rail in the eastbound was infield holland welded to CWR. The second track was scrapped.

Either my sources or JLY/JWL on these forums has said that HF (Head Free) rail was a failure as a cross section and most of it had been removed all over the SP system by something like mid 1960s (or that a program had been established by then to remove it), a statement which surpised me. I think HF was a NYC idea.

>The UP never maintained the No. 1 track in either the summer or the winter and it was gone before their acquisition

How could the UP maintain never maintain it if it wasn't there when they bought the SP?

>so I am curious about the statement that the track was too expensive to maintain due to frost
heave.

That's what the [UP] Roseville district chief engineer (DTW) told me about 10-12 years ago. He was from the SP, -- he started out in Charlie Neal's day.

>The SP opoeraed over this railraod for over 120 years and it was not any more troublesome than T-41 or track in any of the Snow Sheds.

There were more snow sheds on that section of track than on the entire rest of the Mountain. The last few times I went over it, in summer, it was Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. So, the SP threw in the towel, yes, even after 120 years.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Donner Pass Track 1 Jim 02-16-2011 - 17:55
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Juppo 02-16-2011 - 19:41
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 E 02-16-2011 - 19:41
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Severe Duty 02-16-2011 - 22:16
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Sam Reeves 02-17-2011 - 08:44
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OTN 02-17-2011 - 10:02
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-17-2011 - 10:41
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Drew Jacksich 02-17-2011 - 11:23
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 :) 02-17-2011 - 12:11
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 JS 02-17-2011 - 13:57
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OTM 02-17-2011 - 13:54
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 WAF 02-17-2011 - 14:39
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-17-2011 - 19:42
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 George Andrews 02-17-2011 - 20:21
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OTN 02-18-2011 - 09:47
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-18-2011 - 11:28
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OTN 02-18-2011 - 16:24
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Jim 02-18-2011 - 16:43
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-18-2011 - 20:03
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OTN 02-18-2011 - 20:29
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OPRRMS 02-19-2011 - 11:44
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 WAF 02-19-2011 - 14:44
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OPRRMS 02-19-2011 - 20:26
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 WAF 02-19-2011 - 21:01
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OPRRMS 02-20-2011 - 13:15
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 jwl 02-20-2011 - 13:56
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-20-2011 - 16:18
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 WAF 02-20-2011 - 17:38
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OPRRMS 02-21-2011 - 16:24
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-21-2011 - 17:25
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 OPRRMS 02-21-2011 - 17:57
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-21-2011 - 18:57
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-19-2011 - 11:46
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 JS 02-19-2011 - 10:55
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Holly Gibson 02-18-2011 - 20:07
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 WAF 02-18-2011 - 20:21
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 George Andrews 02-18-2011 - 20:51
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Craig Tambo 02-19-2011 - 16:46
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-19-2011 - 17:12
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Craig Tambo 02-20-2011 - 23:44
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Dr Zarkoff 02-21-2011 - 09:42
  Re: Donner Pass Track 1 Craig Tambo 02-22-2011 - 01:13


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