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Re: Things I thought I would never see.

Author: Drew Jacksich

Date: 10-05-2011 - 21:36

I believe that two man operation did not end until the last of the heavyweights were retired. It is my understanding that two or three of them remained in service on the N-Judah until 1958. The city ordinance requiring two man crews was repealed in 1954 and conductors were removed from both the big and baby tens. 1016 thru 1040 had conductor's stations across from the rear door. When the SLPS PCC's arrived (1101 thru 1167) most of the iron monsters were retired. When the MUNI leased the final three SLPS cars in 1958 (1168 thru 1170) that ended two man cars.

mook Wrote:
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> Thanks. Clears up who has/supplied what.
>
> My only real connection to the Muni (other than
> having used it a lot while growing up in SF -
> regrettably with very few pictures) is that my
> grandfather was retired as a conductor when the
> Geary Street lines were shut down. 2-man operation
> ended with that, and they had no need for people
> to retrain as motormen/drivers.

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Subject	Written By	Date/Time (PST)
Things I thought I would never see.	Drew Jacksich	10-05-2011 - 00:20
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	Marty Bernard	10-05-2011 - 10:00
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	Steven D. Johnson	10-05-2011 - 10:07
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	mook	10-05-2011 - 18:07
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	Drew Jacksich	10-05-2011 - 18:19
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	mook	10-05-2011 - 18:24
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	Drew Jacksich	10-05-2011 - 21:36
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	Mike Swanson	10-05-2011 - 11:45
Re: Things I thought I would never see.	OPRRMS	10-05-2011 - 11:50
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Drew Jacksich Wrote:
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> I believe that two man operation did not end until
> the last of the heavyweights were retired. It is
> my understanding that two or three of them
> remained in service on the N-Judah until 1958. The
> city ordinance requiring two man crews was
> repealed in 1954 and conductors were removed from
> both the big and baby tens. 1016 thru 1040 had
> conductor's stations across from the rear door.
> When the SLPS PCC's arrived (1101 thru 1167) most
> of the iron monsters were retired. When the MUNI
> leased the final three SLPS cars in 1958 (1168
> thru 1170) that ended two man cars.
> 
> 
> mook Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks. Clears up who has/supplied what.
> > 
> > My only real connection to the Muni (other than
> > having used it a lot while growing up in SF -
> > regrettably with very few pictures) is that my
> > grandfather was retired as a conductor when the
> > Geary Street lines were shut down. 2-man
> operation
> > ended with that, and they had no need for
> people
> > to retrain as motormen/drivers.

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