Re: @ Margaret---amen to Mook
Author: Carol L. Voss
Date: 11-03-2012 - 18:56

mook Wrote:
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> Spurs ... where?
>
> When I lived in the S.C. area in the late 1970s
> most of the spurs north (west) of Watsonville were
> either inactive or gone. It should be even worse
> now, because even those few industries have
> disappeared for the most part - whether because of
> activities of the Socialist Republic of Santa Cruz
> or simply the economy (housing and small
> commercial make more money per square foot). The
> trains seen on the branch at the time in the S.C.
> area were cement loads and coal empties out,
> cement empties and coal loads in, and very
> occasional other cars for the cement plant,
> Wrigley's, and a few other lumber yards and the
> like. Non-cement-plant traffic was very light even
> then.
>
> One thing discussed back then - very briefly - was
> building a garbage transfer station at the Buena
> Vista dump and sending it out (somewhere ...
> anywhere) on trains. Given the state of that
> industry and the fact that despite recycling S.C.
> residents still make garbage, Iowa Pacific might
> want to start talking to somebody about that
> again.
>
> The chromium issue at the cement plant was
> probably related to coal burning. It's a common
> product of coal burning, along with mercury, etc.
> The plant was rebuilt from heavy oil (mostly
> delivered by tanker) to coal power in the late
> 1970s -- yes, there was "comment" at the time but
> the company showed that they would meet all air
> pollution regulations and in fact would be much
> cleaner than they were before. Since then
> regulations have gotten tighter and the number of
> things that are of concern has grown. So I'm sure
> that Cemex looked at the prospect of having to
> rebuild it again (to use gas, probably) to keep
> operating and decided that it was better for the
> corporate bottom line to ship it in from someplace
> else. Preferably someplace with no environmental
> regulations and very low-wage labor (i.e.
> expendable slaves). I'm kind of cynical in my old
> age, because my observation from many years in the
> environmental regulation and planning game is that
> Americans in general, and "environmentally
> concious" folk in particular, are very good at
> exporting their impacts and very bad at paying for
> them. I really don't blame the Cemex's of the
> world for doing what they do with offshoring when
> we make it so hard (via unlimited lawsuits,
> clueless politicians, etc.) to just do the job
> right. It's not just the cost; the hassle factor
> and uncertainty are major points -- sometimes more
> important that the cost.


Right on!!!!
C.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line Howard 11-03-2012 - 12:47
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line AngryFoamer 11-03-2012 - 15:31
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line Howard 11-03-2012 - 15:49
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line Margaret (SP fan) 11-03-2012 - 15:37
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line Carol L. Voss 11-03-2012 - 15:48
  @ Carol Howard 11-03-2012 - 16:18
  Re: @ Carol---sand plant Carol L. Voss 11-03-2012 - 17:47
  Re: @ Carol---sand plant Brian Bergtold 11-03-2012 - 17:54
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line Brian Bergtold 11-03-2012 - 17:52
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line John Bromley 11-04-2012 - 06:13
  Re: MOW Work On The Santa Cruz Branch Line Howard 11-04-2012 - 08:37
  @ Margaret Howard 11-03-2012 - 16:14
  Re: @ Margaret mook 11-03-2012 - 18:18
  Re: @ Margaret Brian Bergtold 11-03-2012 - 18:47
  Re: @ Margaret---amen to Mook Carol L. Voss 11-03-2012 - 18:56
  @ mook Howard 11-03-2012 - 19:19
  Re: @ mook Tony Johnson 11-03-2012 - 21:50
  Re: @ mook------tires as fuel Carol L. Voss 11-03-2012 - 22:10
  Cupertino plant local yokel 11-03-2012 - 23:56
  Re: Cupertino plant is owned by GERMANS, not Mexicans Not German 11-04-2012 - 00:33
  Re: Davenport was never Lehigh Brian Bergtold 11-04-2012 - 01:00
  Re: Davenport was never Lehigh Tony Johnson 11-04-2012 - 07:59
  Re: Davenport pedo viejo 11-04-2012 - 09:42
  Re: Cupertino plant---use of acreage etc Carol L. Voss 11-04-2012 - 10:01
  @ Tony Howard 11-04-2012 - 09:04
  Re: @ Tony Tony Johnson 11-04-2012 - 23:40
  Re: @ Tony Howard 11-05-2012 - 08:55


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