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Re: "brains" - must be one of those ironic names
Author: cerebellums
Date: 02-15-2014 - 15:18
brains Wrote:
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> Dear ...huh? The fact that the educated Mr.
> Madison used the absolute ablative in his sentence
> structure does not make the first clause any less
> pertinent or applicable, and the word is "the
> people", not "the individual". Last time I
> checked, people was the plural, meaning that in a
> community, arsenals could, yea, should be kept.
> That is one interpretation that is put forward by
> serious thinkers on the matter,e.g. Garry Wills,
> who is anything but a "knee-jerk", sorry,
> reflexive "liberal". Sadly , that is not the
> prevailing view at SCOTUS.
> As well argue that the Preamble, you know the
> one that begins, "We, the people of ther United
> States of America..." is irrelevant in the
> interpretation of the rest of the Constitution.
> The whole amendment is only that one sentence,
> badly written though it might be, and thus all of
> it is very much to the point. I'll leave aside for
> the moment the realities of arms in the early
> Republic, save to ask if you've heard of Shay's
> Rebellion or the Whisky Rebellion, the one under
> the Articles and the other during Washington's
> administration and the general sentiment about
> them both.
> BTW, the screen name is a tribute to my
> grandfather, a freight and passenger conductor on
> the NYC, the guy they called "the brains" in the
> argot of the era.
You're so far off the mark, you've landed in a whole 'nother country.
The "militia" and the "people" are one and the same in the 2nd Amendment. The idea being that it is citizens who are the last line of defense against invading armies (both foreign and domestic), and thus the citizens shall have the right to keep and bear the types of small arms (and the relative components necessary for full functionality of those weapons) a defender of the Nation would use. In the modern context that means semiautomatic rifles which use detachable standard capacity magazines, collapsable stocks, muzzle brakes and flash hiders, pistol grips, and short range optics, along with the proper ammunition ...... however much one chooses to own.
Also keep in mind that all hunting rifles and sidearms basically had their start as military weapons.
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> Dear ...huh? The fact that the educated Mr.
> Madison used the absolute ablative in his sentence
> structure does not make the first clause any less
> pertinent or applicable, and the word is "the
> people", not "the individual". Last time I
> checked, people was the plural, meaning that in a
> community, arsenals could, yea, should be kept.
> That is one interpretation that is put forward by
> serious thinkers on the matter,e.g. Garry Wills,
> who is anything but a "knee-jerk", sorry,
> reflexive "liberal". Sadly , that is not the
> prevailing view at SCOTUS.
> As well argue that the Preamble, you know the
> one that begins, "We, the people of ther United
> States of America..." is irrelevant in the
> interpretation of the rest of the Constitution.
> The whole amendment is only that one sentence,
> badly written though it might be, and thus all of
> it is very much to the point. I'll leave aside for
> the moment the realities of arms in the early
> Republic, save to ask if you've heard of Shay's
> Rebellion or the Whisky Rebellion, the one under
> the Articles and the other during Washington's
> administration and the general sentiment about
> them both.
> BTW, the screen name is a tribute to my
> grandfather, a freight and passenger conductor on
> the NYC, the guy they called "the brains" in the
> argot of the era.
You're so far off the mark, you've landed in a whole 'nother country.
The "militia" and the "people" are one and the same in the 2nd Amendment. The idea being that it is citizens who are the last line of defense against invading armies (both foreign and domestic), and thus the citizens shall have the right to keep and bear the types of small arms (and the relative components necessary for full functionality of those weapons) a defender of the Nation would use. In the modern context that means semiautomatic rifles which use detachable standard capacity magazines, collapsable stocks, muzzle brakes and flash hiders, pistol grips, and short range optics, along with the proper ammunition ...... however much one chooses to own.
Also keep in mind that all hunting rifles and sidearms basically had their start as military weapons.
