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Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula
Author: Native
Date: 12-18-2014 - 20:10

David Smith Wrote:
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> Native Wrote:
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> > David Smith Wrote:
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> > > As much as I like railroads and MRL
> ...........
> > > just rebuild the stupid pipeline already!
> >
> >
> > So your saying only the cars from the gas local
> > can be hit and then tip over?
> >
> > I'm sure they could build the pipeline across
> your
> > land if you are realy wanting oil to move via
> > pipeline.
>
>
> Let me see if I've got this straight - you'd
> rather refined petroleum products move by rail
> rather than pipeline, even though the risk of
> spill is greater via rail than via pipeline?
>
> Just want clarification.


Use of this pipeline had lead to spills, the use of rail has lead to zero spills that I know of.

In this case rail is the best. As stated on a Forbs article,

"The short answer is: truck worse than train worse than pipeline worse than boat. But that’s only for human death and property destruction. For the normalized amount of oil spilled, it’s truck worse than pipeline worse than rail worse than boat. Different yet again is for environmental impact (dominated by impact to aquatic habitat), where it’s boat worse than pipeline worse than truck worse than rail."

Read the rest of the article from Forbs. In this case where both the pipeline and rail line traverse mostly uninhabited land the environmental impact and amount spilled are the deciding factors.

When there is a spill from a pipeline all the product moving through the pipe is at risk of leaking from the pipe if the shutoffs aren't closed in a timely manor. Most leaks go on for months to years without being noticed.

When a spill from a tank car occurs it is confined to that tank and during a derailment there has never been 100% of the product spilled from 100% of the railcars in the train.


You didn't answer if you were ok with the pipeline being routed through your land, near your house?

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  Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula pdxrailtransit 12-17-2014 - 16:46
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula David Smith 12-17-2014 - 18:00
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula Native 12-17-2014 - 18:57
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula David Smith 12-18-2014 - 17:31
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula Native 12-18-2014 - 20:10
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula Shortline Sammie 12-17-2014 - 18:03
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula George Andrews 12-17-2014 - 21:00
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula mikefrommontana 12-18-2014 - 13:51
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula pdxrailtransit 12-18-2014 - 14:17
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula Uncle Dave 12-19-2014 - 10:50
  Re: Thirty Tank Cars On Their Side in Missoula pdxrailtransit 12-20-2014 - 13:06


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