Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California
Author: Sgt. Joe Friday
Date: 02-27-2018 - 07:35

I like the idea of a revival of the Lark as much as anyone here, but is there really a market for that kind of service anymore? We're basically talking about a point-to-point service (let's face it, there's not going to be any business between intermediate stops from Santa Barbara - Paso Robles: too few people, and it's the middle of the night). By way of comparison, how is that overnight sleeper bus doing? If people are using it, then that could indicate there's demand that warrants further study. If not, well, then interesting idea but that's it.

An overnight LA-SF/Sacto service that might merit some study would be the San Joaquin Valley line. There, you actually do have a population base, e.g. Bakersfield at 365,000 people vs. SLO at 45,000 that could generate business between intermediate stops. A train leaving LA at around 6:00 in the evening would reach Bakersfield before midnight; the return trip could be scheduled to leave the SF Bay area around 9:30 PM, with an early AM arrival in Bakersfield and late AM to LA. Basically, the Owl's old schedule.

Of course, there would be issues with the host railroads and track capacity, especially over Tehachapi, and Uncle Pete would want nothing to do with this. But it's fun to spitball anyway.

One last thought: I scratch my head sometimes that no one, either pre-Amtrak or since ever tried the idea of a through SF Bay area - Las Vegas service. Point to point it would be around 12 hours and very few would ride the entire length of the trip. But I'd bet there are plenty of people who go from Fresno and Bakersfield to Vegas, and the train would be an attractive option.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Potential for new night train between Northern & Southern California Dragoman 02-25-2018 - 19:55
  Re: Potential for new night train between Northern & Southern California Railpax71 02-25-2018 - 20:57
  Re: Potential for new night train between Northern & Southern California BOB R 02-26-2018 - 13:36
  Re: Potential for new night train between Northern & Southern California Dragoman 02-26-2018 - 14:08
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California BOB2 02-26-2018 - 14:21
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Reality 02-26-2018 - 15:49
  Re: Potential for new equipment-when? BOB2 02-26-2018 - 16:04
  Re: Potential for new equipment-when? Reality 02-26-2018 - 16:57
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California BOB R 02-26-2018 - 16:08
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California George Andrews 02-26-2018 - 16:52
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Highball the rollby train 17 02-26-2018 - 18:21
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Reality 02-26-2018 - 16:59
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California More Reality 02-26-2018 - 18:44
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Dragoman 02-26-2018 - 19:13
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California BOB2 02-26-2018 - 19:22
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California david vartanoff 02-27-2018 - 00:19
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Sgt. Joe Friday 02-27-2018 - 07:35
  Santa Fe Hi Level fleet Chico 02-27-2018 - 10:10
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Espee99 02-27-2018 - 19:36
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California Dragoman 02-27-2018 - 19:46
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California wandering wonderer 03-02-2018 - 10:23
  Re: Potential for new train between Northern & Southern California PVWB 03-01-2018 - 20:58


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