Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck
Author: John Bruce
Date: 10-02-2019 - 21:16

But if we take the example of the Philadelphia excessive speed accident a few years ago, the assumption is that an operating PTC system would prevent it, and if PTC did not, it would have failed to override the crew failure. So it would be a PTC failure had PTC been operating in that instance, but it wasn't, so it was a crew failure. Let's take a possible explanation for the Csrey accident, the crew was somehow able to disconnect PTC due to some yard requirement, but failed to reconnect it on the main (as best I can understand this). This would be a severalfold failure. I would think PTC would be smart enough to recognize its different states in yard or main service and reconnect itself if there were a discrepancy. If it were not, I would think this would be a defect in basic design, though not a strict malfunction. If the crew were instructed via policy simply to trust PTC, this wouldn't be a crew failure. I would also take the example of the 2008 Chatsworth head-on and suggest the crew failure could have been enabled by management laxity. But in general, the point of {TC ought to be to override every possible crew failure, but record the override action for management attention. I would think that except for each unanticipated situation not covered by system design, PTC ought to be overriding every known opportunity for crew failure and the system updated each time something new happens.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck JOHN 10-01-2019 - 11:27
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck OPRRMS 10-01-2019 - 15:07
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck Eric Gonzales 10-01-2019 - 16:32
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck david vartanoff 10-01-2019 - 20:23
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck John Bruce 10-02-2019 - 08:35
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck OPRRMS 10-02-2019 - 12:13
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck John Bruce 10-02-2019 - 21:16
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck OPRRMS 10-02-2019 - 21:27
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck Dr Zarkoff 10-02-2019 - 23:06
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck T.I.Runout 10-03-2019 - 00:00
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck John Bruce 10-03-2019 - 08:03
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck Dr Zarkoff 10-03-2019 - 10:08
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck OPRRMS 10-03-2019 - 10:37
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck John Bruce 10-03-2019 - 11:51
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck OPRRMS 10-03-2019 - 11:59
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck Espee99 10-03-2019 - 15:50
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck T.I.Runout 10-03-2019 - 20:28
  Re: PTC failure: Toledo Blade on CSX Carey wreck WAJ 10-03-2019 - 17:10


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