Wokewanna484 (FUD) with the hate America first cliches again
Author: Stick to ruining Trainorders
Date: 06-05-2022 - 23:11

Europe is not the US. Railroads - especially passenger - are public services that are not required to make a profit. They are built and operated with, to some degree, gas tax money: remember, $10/gal gas is old news in Europe, largely due to taxes, not some aberration like that gas station in Mendocino. Fares are designed to attract usage. And "improved highways" is also a seldom-used phrase in recent years.

Then: there are taxes on the already-expensive jet fuel and aviation gas that make flying short hops expensive.

Yes, if you buy a Porsche, you will use it. Likewise a big SUV, which are increasingly common (though disastrously expensive to buy and use). But there just aren't a lot of those compared to the overall traffic. European traffic is not dominated by single drivers in 5-ton trucks as it is in the US.

There are even a few cases, such as in France, where short-hop flights have been banned where high speed rail is available.

Yes, it's a different place. The US is pretty much 3rd-world, at best, in comparison.

There are basically 2 ways to cut the city-city time for a train: shorten the route, or go faster. Obviously, doing both is best. And the final result is always a compromise - if "direct" means digging a long, deep mountain tunnel and "less direct, but still good for a reasonable speed" is only a bit longer but less expensive to build, less direct wins.

The Europeans seems to be better at making those compromises than the Americans.



You must not have valid points if you can't make them without always resorting to hype. You tell stories as accurately and believable as Joe Biden.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Nice rail infrastructure (Germany) Ernest H. Robl 06-05-2022 - 11:00
  Re: Nice rail infrastructure (Germany) Charles Koch 06-05-2022 - 11:28
  Re: Nice rail infrastructure (Germany) Ernest H. Robl 06-05-2022 - 11:35
  Re: Nice rail infrastructure (Germany) Charles Koch 06-05-2022 - 11:50
  Re: Nice rail infrastructure (Germany) Commenter 06-05-2022 - 13:11
  Re: Nice rail infrastructure (Germany) FUD 06-05-2022 - 13:55
  Wokewanna484 (FUD) with the hate America first cliches again Stick to ruining Trainorders 06-05-2022 - 23:11
  Re:(FUD) with the hate America first cliches again-translation: Nancy the troll doesn't like what you said BOB2 06-06-2022 - 00:52
  Re: Wokewanna484 (FUD) with the hate America first cliches again For Stick . . . 06-06-2022 - 01:31
  Max speed of this line will only be 250kph Kraut 06-05-2022 - 13:31
  Re: Max speed of this line will only be 250kph Ernest H. Robl 06-05-2022 - 17:54
  Re: Max speed of this line will only be 250kph FUD 06-05-2022 - 18:02


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