Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???"
Author: vic
Date: 12-01-2023 - 08:04

George Andrews Wrote:
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> I drove Phoenix to Fullerton, CA., ( after flying
> Alaska Airlines from Seattle to Sky Harbor ) 5
> times in 12 weeks earlier this year, tending to my
> elderly father, and doing the driving so my sister
> wouldn't have to go it alone. LOTSA can haulers
> running lightweight 2 axle container chassis with
> a 40 foot dry box; Eastbound loaded & Westbound
> almost entirely empties. Phoenix is a 7 to 8 hour
> drive from POLA / POLB depending on departure time
> & traffic. Rail cannot hope to compete with that,
> unless Diesel Fuel prices spike dramatically.
> The Valley of The Sun is almost entirely a
> consuming area, with no real manufacturing (
> Boeing in Mesa not withstanding ) and little
> freight originating there and destined for SoCal.
> They even truck motor fuel there from El Segundo
> when the pipeline is down for repairs. When I
> drove for Conway Western Express many years ago,
> it was almost always Loads East / Empties West.
> CWX was lucky to land a W/B traffic lane hauling
> Copper Plates from Nogales, AZ., to Long Beach,
> CA. Interstate 10 is undergoing a major renewal
> across the desert, and should be Good to Go for 20
> more years to come. I agree with BOB2 in his "
> We'll See " assessment.

I know a few independent truckers who left California right after AB5 took effect
Even though they had temporary exemption
Many other issues were a contributing factor (the 2010 emissions rule, taxes, fuel, insurance)
They bring trailer and containers to terminals in Yuma and Las Vegas from the rest of the country



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  UP announces Phoenix terminal The Desert Sprint 11-29-2023 - 23:56
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal John Ernest Olin 11-30-2023 - 01:01
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal Tucson cam watcher 11-30-2023 - 06:32
  Stupidfornia's AB5 job killing law H8 Sacramento scum 11-30-2023 - 13:01
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal Off Topic 11-30-2023 - 21:09
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" BOB2 11-30-2023 - 11:37
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" George Andrews 11-30-2023 - 19:52
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" vic 12-01-2023 - 08:04
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question John 12-01-2023 - 09:18
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question. No I think that UP will not suddenly become a charitable enterprise.... BOB2 12-01-2023 - 10:57
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question. No I think that UP will not suddenly become a charitable enterprise.... Capitalist 12-01-2023 - 11:31
  Re: Women? Okay........ Yeah right.... BOB2 12-01-2023 - 11:58
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question. No I think that UP will not suddenly become a charitable enterprise.... You were doing fine there ... 12-06-2023 - 01:01
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question John 12-02-2023 - 09:12
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question Convoy 12-02-2023 - 14:00
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal. The under 500 miles question me no ibm machine 12-02-2023 - 14:13
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" FUD 12-01-2023 - 13:29
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" . 12-01-2023 - 14:45
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" Just Sayin'... 12-01-2023 - 19:29
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" Cashless Bail Strikes Again 12-01-2023 - 19:56
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" George Soros 12-01-2023 - 22:34
  Re: Elon impressions? BOB2 12-02-2023 - 07:51
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" I'ma M'gaga 12-02-2023 - 11:37
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" I'ma Yo'Momma 12-04-2023 - 19:20
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" I'ma M'gaga 12-04-2023 - 20:28
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" I'ma Yo'Momma 12-04-2023 - 21:37
  Re: UP announces Phoenix terminal-Yeah well.... As the Zen Master say's: "We'll See???" I'ma M'gaga 12-04-2023 - 23:25


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