Re: Fine to plan 4 1st class decades from now, but a fix in the next year or two would allow hourly service that's good enough. Walk before running-Yep, I completely agree with that as a short term solution....
Author: FUD
Date: 02-20-2024 - 18:11

One of the reasons Brightline West was willing to take on the Las Vegas scheme was that Desert West had done all the heavy environmental lifting. So BLW had a pretty good picture (at least between Victorville and LV) what they were up against, and the changes they decided to make reduced many of the impacts identified. They then did some rethinking and figured out that the compromises inherent in sticking to the freeway were acceptable for something intended to make money without waiting forever, and were able by doing that to figure out how to extend into the Basin for a reasonably complete line (which Desert Express essentially left for somebody else to figure out). For that matter, if they want to go to Palmdale, the fundamentals have already been done by Caltrans and Metro, too.

A similar situation does not exist for LOSSAN. Nobody has done a comprehensive long-term plan for the corridor that's actionable, beyond perhaps the LA-Anaheim part that has potential CAHSR funding. Nobody has done the big environmental documents. Nobody has gotten beyond concept (5% or so, not even preliminary - think American HSR level of analysis) engineering for the difficult spots like San Clemente (though SANDAG somehow is still working on Del Mar). So the work needed to make LOSSAN interesting for a Brightline hasn't been done, and would be far too expensive, time-consuming, and uncertain of outcome for Brightline itself to do.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  San Clemente Track Closure 02-13-2024 - 23:49
  Re: San Clemente Track Closure FUD 02-19-2024 - 08:17
  "A true long-term solution" does not require expensive inland relocation tunnels Steve Edward Nicks 02-19-2024 - 11:51
  Re: "A true long-term solution" does not require expensive inland relocation tunnels John 02-19-2024 - 13:08
  Re: "A true long-term solution" to do what exactly? Maintain the minimum status quo, or have a first world intercity rail passenger corridor between LA and SD? BOB2 02-19-2024 - 18:37
  Fine to plan 4 1st class decades from now, but a fix in the next year or two would allow hourly service that's good enough. Walk before running Steve Edwards Nicks 02-19-2024 - 20:24
  Re: Fine to plan 4 1st class decades from now, but a fix in the next year or two would allow hourly service that's good enough. Walk before running-Yep, I completely agree with that as a short term solution.... BOB2 02-20-2024 - 08:41
  Re: Fine to plan 4 1st class decades from now, but a fix in the next year or two would allow hourly service that's good enough. Walk before running-Yep, I completely agree with that as a short term solution.... FUD 02-20-2024 - 18:11
  Re: Fine to plan 4 1st class decades from now, but a fix in the next year or two would allow hourly service that's good enough. Walk before running FUD 02-20-2024 - 08:50
  Re: Fine to plan 4 1st class decades from now, but a fix in the next year or two would allow hourly service that's good enough. Walk before running John 02-20-2024 - 09:31
  Re: Yep, just build an elevated bridge through San Clemente...? LMAO..... BOB2 02-20-2024 - 09:47


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