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@ Mook – Re: @ Dean – Re: Big Wash Out On The Santa Cruz Branch Line
Author: Howard
Date: 03-28-2011 - 17:59
mook Wrote:
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> It may become public property but not for public
> access, any more than PRW sections of a light rail
> line or BART or Caltrain are. It's still a
> railroad. You don't get public access until a
> trail is built, and then only on the trail.
>
> -mike
>
> PS: in a book that I can't remember the name of
> right now I saw a b/w shot of a similar washout on
> the Davenport line in a big storm many years ago.
> Big rainstorms can easily wash out culverts that
> are normally fine. In the Davenport case, the
> ocean may have helped with big waves working on
> the seaward base of the fill. In this case, it
> could easily have been a cloudburst like the one
> that got Capitola combined with perhaps some
> debris blocking the pipe.
>
> Howard Wrote:
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> > dean Wrote:
> >
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>
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> > > let me rephrase that - *when* the county
> > > officially takes ownership of the line, will
> it
> > > become public property?
> >
> > I would imagine the parcels that are not
> easements
> > would become public property.
What I heard today from the residents adjoining the gulch is that an oak tree fell into the gulch Thursday after being undermined by the heavy rain and it blocked the entrance portal to the culvert. With the portal inlet dammed the gulch quickly filled up with water that almost reached the top of the roadbed. The soil under the roadbed became super saturated and blew out taking the concrete culvert and the oak tree down stream. The oak tree seen in my video fell the next day along with more soil.
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> It may become public property but not for public
> access, any more than PRW sections of a light rail
> line or BART or Caltrain are. It's still a
> railroad. You don't get public access until a
> trail is built, and then only on the trail.
>
> -mike
>
> PS: in a book that I can't remember the name of
> right now I saw a b/w shot of a similar washout on
> the Davenport line in a big storm many years ago.
> Big rainstorms can easily wash out culverts that
> are normally fine. In the Davenport case, the
> ocean may have helped with big waves working on
> the seaward base of the fill. In this case, it
> could easily have been a cloudburst like the one
> that got Capitola combined with perhaps some
> debris blocking the pipe.
>
> Howard Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dean Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > let me rephrase that - *when* the county
> > > officially takes ownership of the line, will
> it
> > > become public property?
> >
> > I would imagine the parcels that are not
> easements
> > would become public property.
What I heard today from the residents adjoining the gulch is that an oak tree fell into the gulch Thursday after being undermined by the heavy rain and it blocked the entrance portal to the culvert. With the portal inlet dammed the gulch quickly filled up with water that almost reached the top of the roadbed. The soil under the roadbed became super saturated and blew out taking the concrete culvert and the oak tree down stream. The oak tree seen in my video fell the next day along with more soil.
