Re: Amtrak & other options
Author: mook
Date: 10-01-2012 - 12:08

My observations are fairly similar. However, since I live in the great state of Californication, we have some state-funded Amtrak service that carries quite a few passengers (they're usually in the top 5-6 nationwide for ridership and cost recovery), runs fairly often (6-12 trips/day depending on the corridor) and that's moderately competitive with driving in terms of time and comfort. Certainly far better than the faint shadow of former (subsidized) service that Greyhound still provides. Cost of course is another matter -- makes sense for business trips, but if more than 2-3 people (depending on the trip) need to go it makes more sense to drive, and it's usually a bit faster because you don't have to make as many stops. I think it's one of the better uses of state money -- certainly better than trying to do a from-scratch gold-plated HSR line.

For trips of over 400 miles (e.g. N Calif-S Calif) it still makes some sense to fly as long as you can use a secondary airport (like Oakland or Sacramento to Burbank or Orange Co or Ontario) and it's a business (1 person) non-stop trip. For downtown LA runs the train still comes in handy - take the first morning flight into Burbank then jump on Metrolink or Amtrak just outside the terminal instead of renting a car. If you're bringing the family, though, drive -- 6-7 hours to LA, 8 to Disneyland, 10-12 to San Diego, so there's the cost of an overnight stop for the SD run, but it still works out about as good as Amtrak for time (or better, considering how much of the useful (i.e. not the Starlate) run is on a bus) and better for cost. For even longer trips, flying is the only practical alternative (I don't have time to spend 5 or more days getting to Chicago let alone the East Coat), but it has all the downsides you mention - plus arranging the connections right (DON'T buy a "direct" ticket on Southwest!).



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Amtrak JoelM 09-29-2012 - 12:13
  Re: Amtrak Deano 09-29-2012 - 14:34
  Re: Amtrak Holly Gibson 09-29-2012 - 14:59
  Re: Amtrak Drew Jacksich 09-29-2012 - 16:14
  Re: Amtrak Marty Bernard 09-29-2012 - 16:56
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! daniel3197 09-29-2012 - 17:00
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! Mistertower 09-29-2012 - 18:13
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! roadbase 09-30-2012 - 04:16
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! Timothy Barham 09-30-2012 - 09:22
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! Drew Jacksich 09-30-2012 - 10:17
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! Reality 09-30-2012 - 13:48
  Re: Amtrak -- RIGHT ON DREW !!! Graham Buxton 09-30-2012 - 17:25
  Re: Amtrak -- wrong DREW !!! Reality 09-30-2012 - 18:11
  VOTE BULLMOOSE 2012!!!!! Teddy 09-30-2012 - 18:14
  Re: Amtrak Ernest H. Robl 09-30-2012 - 16:55
  Train Service AC 09-30-2012 - 17:57
  Re: Train Service Ernest H. Robl 09-30-2012 - 18:44
  Re: Amtrak Mark 09-30-2012 - 05:07
  Re: Amtrak Steve Sloan 09-30-2012 - 07:06
  Re: Amtrak Hutch 7.62 09-30-2012 - 08:22
  Re: Amtrak douglasm 09-30-2012 - 16:55
  Re: Amtrak Ernest H. Robl 09-30-2012 - 17:23
  Re: Amtrak douglasm 10-01-2012 - 05:56
  Re: Amtrak Graham Buxton 09-30-2012 - 17:31
  Re: Amtrak douglasm 10-01-2012 - 06:00
  Re: Amtrak OldPoleBurner 10-01-2012 - 11:02
  Re: Amtrak & other options mook 10-01-2012 - 12:08
  Re: Amtrak Partisan Foamer 10-01-2012 - 19:24
  Re: Amtrak Steve Sloan 10-02-2012 - 04:40
  Re: Amtrak Partisan Foamer pays LOTS of TAXES 10-02-2012 - 20:17
  Re: Amtrak Steve Sloan 10-03-2012 - 04:33
  Re: Amtrak Retired Engineer 10-03-2012 - 07:04
  Re: Amtrak 10-03-2012 - 10:33
  Re: Amtrak Steve Sloan 10-03-2012 - 17:02
  Re: Amtrak Ret'd Engr 10-03-2012 - 17:25
  Re: Amtrak JustAnotherTaxpayer 10-03-2012 - 19:07
  Re: Amtrak Partisan Foamer 10-01-2012 - 19:24
  Re: Amtrak Partisan Foamer 10-01-2012 - 19:24
  Re: Amtrak Partisan Foamer 10-01-2012 - 19:25
  Re: Amtrak Partisan Foamer 10-01-2012 - 19:25
  Re: Amtrak - all these posts Partisan Foamer 10-02-2012 - 20:15
  Re: Amtrak - all these posts OldPoleBurner 10-03-2012 - 22:35


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