Freight on HSR tracks: a dumb idea
Author: Clem
Date: 05-04-2021 - 22:19

Freight on HSR ROW is a dumb idea and will blow costs further through the roof.

HSR can easily handle 4% grades, if not even steeper. I gather that many years ago when SNCF approached California officials with a plan for Altamont - I-5 - Grapevine, complete with private financing, the ruling grade they designed for was 5%. Brightline Victorville - Las Vegas is somewhere around 4.5%. Do not try this with heavy diesel freight trains.

Then there is the issue of track maintenance. US freight equipment is maintained to the minimum “derailments are a cost of doing business” standard, and will absolutely ruin the alignment of FRA Class 9 HSR trackage. The Europeans tried fast freight on their HSR infrastructure, using their 22500 kg axle load limit, and it never penciled out. Imagine 32000 kg per axle with wheels that aren’t even round!



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Your Tax Dollars At Work??? And, lobbying for Federal funds with taxpayer money? BOB2 05-02-2021 - 15:13
  Thanks Bob bigBobfan 05-02-2021 - 15:50
  Re: Your Tax Dollars At Work??? And, lobbying for Federal funds with taxpayer money? Clem 05-02-2021 - 21:08
  Re: Your Tax Dollars At Work??? And, lobbying for Federal funds with taxpayer money? J Mann 05-03-2021 - 09:34
  Why a 'duct Commenter 05-03-2021 - 10:18
  Re: Why a 'duct JJJ 05-03-2021 - 11:07
  Re: Why a 'duct FUD 05-03-2021 - 20:33
  Re: J Mann good observation.... imagine if CAHSRA was building Brightline, what would Clem's excuse would be? BOB2 05-03-2021 - 17:07
  Re: J Mann good observation.... imagine if CAHSRA was building Brightline, what would Clem's excuse would be? Clem 05-03-2021 - 18:10
  Reimagine if Brightline was building the CAHSRA segment from Burbank to Palmdale?, and I am being too hard on Clem... BOB2 05-03-2021 - 18:42
  Re: Reimagine if Brightline was building the CAHSRA segment from Burbank to Palmdale?, and I am being too hard on Clem... III 05-04-2021 - 11:40
  Re: Reimagine if Brightline was building the CAHSRA segment from Burbank to Palmdale?, and I am being too hard on Clem... *** 05-04-2021 - 13:39
  Reimagine if Brightline was building the CAHSRA segment Wasco Chowchilla for Amtrak PropPitPimp 05-04-2021 - 14:40
  Freight on HSR tracks: a dumb idea Clem 05-04-2021 - 22:19
  Re: Freight on HSR tracks: a dumb idea III 05-05-2021 - 11:32


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