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Bob2
Author: Kill A Watt
Date: 09-01-2016 - 08:34
BOB2 Wrote:
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> Where do people get this solar and wind are
> unreliable nonsense from?
>
> The sun is shining and the wind is blowing almost
> constantly somewhere in the western US almost
> constantly (sun during daylight when peak demand
> occurs, and wind all of the time). You can even
> store wind and solar energy, like we did down in
> the Coachella Valley, as far back at the early
> 2000's by using night generated off peak wind and
> morning solar power, to make hydrogen from water,
> and then burn it, in a mix with natural gas, in
> the peaker plants that were being installed back
> then, during the pm peak power usage.
>
> I was once told by Pasadena's useless (now
> retired) PWP head that we couldn't do solar arrays
> over the 210 to meet our peak load imbalance on
> the west side of the City, because solar energy
> would be "unreliable" during July, August, and
> September, when these imbalances occur. So,
> Caltech's director of facilities just laughed at
> her, and took Pasadena's largest user and rate
> payer, off of the grid completely. So much for
> "unreliable"....?
>
> Not only are these increments highly reliable and
> cleaner, they are increasingly cheaper, as costs
> come down. Also, let's be real, natural gas will
> finally kill off coal over the next ten years, as
> existing coal fired plants (many built in the 70's
> and 80's) reach the end of the current contracts,
> are retired, or are converted to gas, because it
> is just so much cheaper.
Wind and solar are not 100% reliable, you need to add in other "green" sources like Hydro, Nuclear, and Geo-thermal to back them up during the times the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine
[www.cnn.com]
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> Where do people get this solar and wind are
> unreliable nonsense from?
>
> The sun is shining and the wind is blowing almost
> constantly somewhere in the western US almost
> constantly (sun during daylight when peak demand
> occurs, and wind all of the time). You can even
> store wind and solar energy, like we did down in
> the Coachella Valley, as far back at the early
> 2000's by using night generated off peak wind and
> morning solar power, to make hydrogen from water,
> and then burn it, in a mix with natural gas, in
> the peaker plants that were being installed back
> then, during the pm peak power usage.
>
> I was once told by Pasadena's useless (now
> retired) PWP head that we couldn't do solar arrays
> over the 210 to meet our peak load imbalance on
> the west side of the City, because solar energy
> would be "unreliable" during July, August, and
> September, when these imbalances occur. So,
> Caltech's director of facilities just laughed at
> her, and took Pasadena's largest user and rate
> payer, off of the grid completely. So much for
> "unreliable"....?
>
> Not only are these increments highly reliable and
> cleaner, they are increasingly cheaper, as costs
> come down. Also, let's be real, natural gas will
> finally kill off coal over the next ten years, as
> existing coal fired plants (many built in the 70's
> and 80's) reach the end of the current contracts,
> are retired, or are converted to gas, because it
> is just so much cheaper.
Wind and solar are not 100% reliable, you need to add in other "green" sources like Hydro, Nuclear, and Geo-thermal to back them up during the times the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine
[www.cnn.com]
