Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories?
Author: ex-BN
Date: 12-20-2016 - 17:34

George Andrews Wrote:
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> As I understand it, GE felt that having all the
> locomotives' weight on only 4 axles ( when the
> center axles are lifted ) , would result in more
> tractive effort. Apparently this is not the case.

What they are saying is that a C4 (6 axle/4 AC traction motors) has the same pulling power as a 6 motor DC unit. You will notice that coal trains almost always have 6 AC motor units.

Bottom line is that that C4's don't cut it on mountain grade. Especially on wet/greasy rail conditions. We went through all this with the LMX engines that despite much more HP than an SD40-2 were no match in mountain grade territory. Six axle AC locomotives are the gold standard. Anything else comes up short when the chips are down.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  ET44C4 Failure Stories? Pdxrailtransit 12-20-2016 - 14:46
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Bill Maltby 12-20-2016 - 15:05
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Pdxrailtransit 12-20-2016 - 16:06
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? mook 12-20-2016 - 16:03
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Pdxrailtransit 12-20-2016 - 16:10
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Hoghead 1 12-20-2016 - 16:14
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? George Andrews 12-20-2016 - 16:48
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? ex-BN 12-20-2016 - 17:34
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? An Observer 12-20-2016 - 16:53
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... BOB2 12-20-2016 - 17:48
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... An Observer 12-21-2016 - 08:35
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... On bnsf too 12-21-2016 - 17:23
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Pdxrailtransit 12-21-2016 - 20:07
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... An Observer 12-22-2016 - 09:57
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Espee99 12-22-2016 - 10:21
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Espee2472 12-22-2016 - 13:45
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... BN Oly 12-22-2016 - 18:52
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Espee2472 12-23-2016 - 01:32
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... ex-BN 12-23-2016 - 07:54
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Bill Maltby 12-23-2016 - 08:28
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Espee2472 12-23-2016 - 09:03
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Pdxrailtransit 12-23-2016 - 11:58
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... mook 12-23-2016 - 14:23
  Re: ET44C4 Failure Stories? Not all HPT is equal.... Stephen Hjellum 12-23-2016 - 15:44


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