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Re: SP 4449 question
Author: A1
Date: 02-23-2017 - 15:56

Curious Wrote:
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> Margaret (SP fan) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Curious" --
> > I am not a member of the Friends of the 4449,
> > but I believe I can give you a reliable answer
> > to one of your questions.
> >
> > You wrote --
> > > I wouldn't think BNSF would support an Amtrak
>
> > > steam excursion under their trackage rights??
> >
> > 1. The 4449's excursions are not "Amtrak steam
> > excursions". They are sponsored by others. The
>
> > excursion to Bend this June is a Friends the
> 4449
> >
> > steam excursion.
> >
> > 2. This excursion -- and all the other 4449
> steam
> >
> > excursions except for the 1977 Transcontinental
>
> > Excursion from Birmingham, Alabama, to Portland,
>
> > Oregon, was actually sponsored by Amtrak.
> AFAIK,
> >
> > that was the only steam excursion Amtrak ever
> > sponsored.
> >
> > 3. I am not sure what you mean by ""their"
> > trackage
> > right". Do you mean Amtrak's on the BNSF or
> > BNSF's
> > on the UP?
>
> Thank you for your response Margaret, I should
> have clarified this question better along with the
> Amtrak statement. I meant BNSF trackage rights on
> UP owned tracks. It has been implied in previous
> discussions that a excursion to California with
> 4449 would need to be over BNSF owned lines along
> with operating under BNSF trackage rights on UP
> owned rails like it did back in 1999. My question
> to this is, since the trip would be sponsored by
> "Friends of the 4449" and operating under Amtrak
> insurance, then the 4449 group would need to work
> directly with UP themselves for permission over
> their tracks they own from say... Chemult, Oregon
> to Klamath Falls, Oregon. Or from Keddie Wye
> through the feather river canyon to Sacramento and
> they would not be considered a BNSF trackage
> rights train since it would not technically be
> backed by BNSF correct?

Ain't gonna happen. It would have to be a BNSF movement
utilizing BNSF trackage rights over UP. That, at least,
has chance of happening. The other way hasn't a prayer.

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  Re: SP 4449 to Bend runs over UP tracks!!! Graham Buxton 02-23-2017 - 17:51
  Re: SP 4449 to Bend runs over UP tracks!!! Erik H. 02-23-2017 - 18:09
  Re: SP 4449 to Bend runs over UP tracks!!! Graham Buxton 02-23-2017 - 18:30
  Re: SP 4449 to Bend runs over UP tracks!!! Reality Check 02-23-2017 - 19:45
  Re: SP 4449 to Bend runs over UP tracks!!! TruthTeller 02-23-2017 - 20:28
  Re: SP 4449 to Bend runs over UP tracks!!! notjimspeaker 02-24-2017 - 20:23
  Re: SP 4449 question Margaret (SP fan) 02-23-2017 - 02:41
  Re: SP 4449 question Arlen Sheldrake 02-23-2017 - 08:20
  Re: SP 4449 question Carol L Voss 02-23-2017 - 09:21
  Re: SP 4449 question Drew Wilson 02-24-2017 - 10:35
  Re: SP 4449 question Curious 02-23-2017 - 11:51
  Re: SP 4449 question A1 02-23-2017 - 15:56
  Re: SP 4449 question OT Local 02-23-2017 - 16:45
  Re: SP 4449 question A1 02-23-2017 - 17:47
  Re: SP 4449 question OT Local 02-24-2017 - 07:26
  Re: SP 4449 question Margaret (SP fan) 02-23-2017 - 22:13
  Re: SP 4449 question Rollin Bredenberg 02-24-2017 - 06:10
  Re: SP 4449 question Rollin Bredenberg 02-24-2017 - 06:22
  Re: SP 4449 question Shortline Sammie 02-24-2017 - 08:19
  Re: SP 4449 question Keep em steamin 02-24-2017 - 07:43
  Re: SP 4449 question Ed Immel 02-24-2017 - 08:50
  Re: SP 4449 question A1 02-24-2017 - 11:18
  Want The Straight Dope/ Listen to Rollin Nudge 02-24-2017 - 12:02
  Thank you Rollin and Sammie and Ed and Keep em steamin -- and UP and BNSF! Margaret (SP fan) 02-24-2017 - 16:30
  Re: Thank you Rollin and Sammie and Ed and Keep em steamin -- and UP and BNSF! A1 02-24-2017 - 18:40


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