Re: High speed ain't gonna fly
Author: BOB2
Date: 08-09-2008 - 09:35

PVWB's comments about 90% of the LAX SFO market for high speed rail are utter nonsense. One of the problems with the ludicrous proposals by the CHSRA are delusional self serving assumptions like this. The SFO-LAX, at this point, would be one of the least competitive markets for improved passenger rail in California. Eventually, maybe, but it certainly should not be the focus of our initial investments, with our limited resources. Investments which are additive to the long term goal and support our burgeoning regional and intercity services and improve time competitiveness, equipment utilization, and efficiency of those system components should recieve first priority.

I am very well versed on the Spanish and other European passenger rail "systems" including the high speed components. The high speed and very high speed lines were built to upgrade already significant demand in much closer city pairs. The TGV, German, Spanish, and Eurostar services were built to upgrade systems to meet demands in corridors that already had astromincal ridership on more conventional service, and as significantly, had a well established network of hubs and feeders, to make it work as part of a rail passenger system.

In California we need to build on the success of our more conventional regional and intercity services in a sustainable, cost effective, and systemic manner. I am more likely to support the bond measure now that the amendments have been made which can allow for this more realistic approach. Elimination of the dysfunctional CHSRA and transfer of the State Rail programs to a responsible and responsive agency, that is not a political "slop trough" for political hacks and wired consultants, is the next step. Realistic achievable steps and reform of a poor process will help to deliver rail passenger service that is worth the investment and works in California.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  High speed ain't gonna fly Russell 08-07-2008 - 17:20
  Do you expect us to join in with you Russell...no thanks Doug 08-07-2008 - 17:23
  Re: Do you expect us to join in with you Russell...no thanks P.Kepler 08-07-2008 - 17:27
  For what it's worth Ernest H. Robl 08-07-2008 - 19:20
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly CD 08-08-2008 - 01:31
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Rich Hunn 08-08-2008 - 06:28
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly P.Kepler 08-08-2008 - 08:05
  Re: Buses ain't gonna fly either . . . cajon 08-08-2008 - 08:45
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly BOB2 08-08-2008 - 09:11
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-08-2008 - 09:58
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly EE 08-08-2008 - 10:11
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Rich Hunn 08-08-2008 - 10:38
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Mike Stimpson 08-08-2008 - 12:47
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-08-2008 - 13:29
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Joe Magruder 08-08-2008 - 13:30
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-08-2008 - 13:42
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly P.Kepler 08-08-2008 - 17:35
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-08-2008 - 18:05
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly P.Kepler 08-08-2008 - 18:44
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-08-2008 - 20:47
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly OldPoleBurner 08-08-2008 - 21:36
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly The Montezuma Yardmaster 08-12-2008 - 17:08
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Capdiamont 08-12-2008 - 18:56
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly NKB 08-13-2008 - 20:39
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly PVWB 08-08-2008 - 21:08
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly P.Kepler 08-08-2008 - 22:03
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly BOB2 08-09-2008 - 09:35
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-09-2008 - 09:57
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly P.Kepler 08-09-2008 - 10:11
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Captain Underpants 08-10-2008 - 22:52
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-11-2008 - 00:32
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly Al Stangenberger 08-11-2008 - 11:03
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly synonymouse 08-11-2008 - 11:51
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly OldPoleBurner 08-13-2008 - 21:21
  Re: High speed ain't gonna fly The Montezuma Yardmaster 08-12-2008 - 17:25


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