Re:There went your A Erik.....and Anton, well...?
Author: BOB2
Date: 08-04-2017 - 22:21

Erik, you just lost your A. This is because in the real world, the "evil" gubmint can and often does need to provide services. This actually has happened quite often in modern history, when the often far from "ideal" free market model fails, in the real world of imperfect markets and/or imperfect market competition. This is because under many circumstance the market cannot produce those public goods and/or services at a profit, often due to the inability to charge efficiently for externalities, or due to natural monopolies, or where there are economies of scale, or where it requires social consent, to achieve the societal efficiencies desired. .

Public goods, with shared benefits, in excess of costs, that clearly benefit society are recognized as important exceptions, to otherwise generally sound free market principles, where there are in fact, free and competitive markets. This is true going all of the way back to Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations. Which is why we often use the "gubmint" to choose "winners" when we produce much needed common goods liked roads, bridges, railways, and works such as lighthouses, where the common benefits are more efficiently delivered by a non-profit oriented "public" sector, and the costs are more efficiently offset by taxing the beneficiaries, than through the often unequal and/or uncompetitive use of marginal cost pricing.

I am aware that today, many so-called or self styled "capitalist" wannabee's are more enamored of the more primitive and simplistic libertarian cult of Ayn Rand. That cult would not want you to become contaminated by reading more complex and nuanced observations of economic behavior or interactions by real economists like, Smith, Mill, or Lord Marshall. This is because you might begin to understand some of that math they use, which would likely open your mind and begin to teach you how to use this important tool of complex economic analysis, which might then cause you to become permanently immune to much of the simplistic dogmatic twaddle which is being peddled by the"true believers" on the extreme right and the extreme left.

Anton, you are just another trolling douchebag. Amtrak isn't really your issue, is it?



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes J 08-02-2017 - 07:26
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Alf Doten 08-02-2017 - 08:28
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes J 08-02-2017 - 10:46
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes WebDigger 08-02-2017 - 10:50
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Alf Doten 08-02-2017 - 12:34
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes IP 08-02-2017 - 13:34
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes espee99 08-02-2017 - 15:46
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes george manley 08-02-2017 - 17:19
  Not because we know what we want, but because Congress told us to do it...... BOB2 08-02-2017 - 17:56
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Margaret (SP fan) 08-02-2017 - 22:08
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes mook 08-02-2017 - 22:42
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Tom3751 08-03-2017 - 12:36
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Erik H. 08-03-2017 - 13:09
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes mook 08-03-2017 - 14:06
  Re: Eric, just ignore Mook, you got my A for the day BOB2 08-03-2017 - 15:21
  Re: Eric, just ignore Mook, you got my A for the day Boberama 08-04-2017 - 11:47
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Margaret (SP fan) 08-04-2017 - 00:58
  Re: I am an evil Amtrak Hater......Yeah right....... BOB2 08-04-2017 - 04:23
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes GRRR 08-04-2017 - 17:45
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Google maps says... 08-05-2017 - 13:23
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Erik H. 08-04-2017 - 21:06
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Anton 08-04-2017 - 21:17
  Re:There went your A Erik.....and Anton, well...? BOB2 08-04-2017 - 22:21
  Re: Re:There went your A Erik.....and Anton, well...? Boberama 08-05-2017 - 10:04
  Re: Re:There went your A Erik.....and Anton, well...? Sumotuwe 08-05-2017 - 10:46
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Commenter 08-04-2017 - 21:48
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes Mike 08-04-2017 - 21:28
  Re: FRA Invites Bids to Replace Amtrak on Three Routes -- OK, I was wrong about a few things Margaret (SP fan) 08-05-2017 - 23:44
  Re: OK, I was wrong about a few things, qnd we do agree on some things, but BOB2 08-06-2017 - 09:00
  Re: OK, I was wrong about a few things, qnd we do agree on some things, but Norman Saxon 08-06-2017 - 11:23
  Re: The selected contractor would be operating under Amtrak's operating "rights" BOB2 08-06-2017 - 11:48
  Re: The selected contractor would be operating under Amtrak's operating "rights" Dr Zarkoff 08-06-2017 - 19:06


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