Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45
Author: ex-BN
Date: 03-25-2019 - 16:57

Hot Water Wrote:
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> ex-BN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This discussion has brought up a point I've
> been
> > pondering for years. What were the reasons
> that
> > Amtrak wanted SDP40Fs instead of FP45s?
>
>
> First, the FP45 model was NOT a "Dash 2" series
> model, and Amtrak wanted a "Dash 2" model
> passenger unit.
>
> Amtrak was given a choice of a 3000 HP model, the
> SDP40F, and a 3600 HP model, which would have been
> the SDP45F, had they chosen that. Since the first
> order of 40 units was specifically purchased for
> service on the Santa Fe, the Santa Fe Mechanical
> Department had considerable influence of the model
> and its specifications. Thus, Amtrak chose the
> 3000 HP models.e. the SDP40F.
>
> I'd guess
> > it was a weight/room issue and most passenger
> > trains have been fine with 6000hp for years
> > including all those trains pulled by four F7s.
> > But that's my guess.
>
>
> A very good guess, based on the actual facts.
>
> Does anyone have an insight
> > into this?
>
> Yes, as the EMD Sales Engineer for the first order
> of units for Amtrak, the stories I could tell
> would curl your hair.

What hair I have left after over 40 years of railroading stands ready to be curled.

Also if ATSF wanted a "40" instead of a "45" does the indicate they had issues with the FP45's? They did of course come back for SD45-2s while other roads were switching to SD40-2s so I assume the engine troubles of the early SD45s had been solved to their satisfaction. Did the SDP40F use the extra room for more water storage and more steam generator capacity?



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Amtrak SDP40F and train steam old diesel watcher 03-23-2019 - 21:18
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam Railbot7 03-23-2019 - 21:46
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam Dr Zarkoff 03-24-2019 - 00:06
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam George Andrews 03-24-2019 - 21:04
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam OPRRMS 03-24-2019 - 23:34
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam Dr Zarkoff 03-25-2019 - 00:41
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam WAF 03-25-2019 - 07:03
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam OPRRMS 03-25-2019 - 07:17
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam OPRRMS 03-25-2019 - 07:34
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam OPRRMS 03-23-2019 - 22:18
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam Saugus srvr 03-23-2019 - 23:41
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam WAF 03-24-2019 - 07:06
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam HUTCH 7.62 03-24-2019 - 08:16
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam Dr Zarkoff 03-24-2019 - 11:35
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam Beer & Pizza 03-24-2019 - 18:26
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F and train steam HUTCH 7.62 03-25-2019 - 10:10
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 ex-BN 03-25-2019 - 10:27
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 Hot Water 03-25-2019 - 11:43
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 ex-BN 03-25-2019 - 16:57
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 Hot Water 03-25-2019 - 17:38
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 ex-BN 03-25-2019 - 17:51
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 Hot Water 03-25-2019 - 18:08
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 SP5103 03-25-2019 - 21:49
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 OPRRMS 03-25-2019 - 19:20
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 George Andrews 03-25-2019 - 20:34
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 Hot Water 03-26-2019 - 09:06
  Re: Amtrak SDP40F vs. FP45 ex-BN 03-26-2019 - 12:22


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