Re: doesn't sound like you've done much rural existence
Author: states
Date: 05-10-2019 - 17:07

>there are a few entire states Amtrak doesn't serve or run through

Actually, there are two states with no scheduled Amtrak service at all: Wyoming and South Dakota. That doesn't mean there's *good* service elsewhere (in several places it's 3 trains a week each way), but there's at least one Amtrak stop in every other state in the lower 48 (obviously, Alaska and Hawaii and the "Commonwealth" areas are out of the picture). Yes, Sandpoint ID is a long bus ride from Boise (assuming there's a bus that connects - note that a key feature of California Amtrak is the coordinated state-supported connecting bus service that makes a lot of towns that the train can't serve accessible to it), but it's an Amtrak stop. Likewise, Memphis TN (an Amtrak stop) is a long way from Nashville or Chattanooga or Knoxville, but it's in the state.

Source: Amtrak Live Map

Just for fun, I looked for how many state capitols are served by Amtrak, and the closest stop to those that aren't. Here's a guess based on the Amtrak Live Map (OpenStreetMaps base) and 50states.com. I didn't have time to dig out the GIS and download a bunch of data from various sources.

Served directly (27):
California (Sacramento), Oregon (Salem), Minnesota (St Paul), Michigan (Lansing), Maine (Portland), Vermont (Montpelier), Massachusetts (Boston), Rhode Island (Providence), Connecticut (Hartford), New York (Albany), Indiana (Indianapolis), Illinois (Springfield), Nebraska (Lincoln), Colorado (Denver), Utah (Salt Lake City), Kansas (Topeka), Missouri (Jefferson City), West Virginia (Charleston), Pennsylvania (Harrisburg), New Jersey (Trenton), Virginia (Richmond), North Carolina (Raleigh), South Carolina (Columbia), Georgia (Atlanta), Mississippi (Jackson), Oklahoma (Oklahoma City), Texas (Austin)

Nearby station (suburban or within about 50 miles) (9)
Washington (Olympia, via Lacey), Nevada (Carson City, via Reno), Arizona (Phoenix, via Maricopa), New Mexico (Santa Fe, via Lamy), Wisconsin (Madison, via Columbus), Maryland (Annapolis, via BWI), New Hampshire (Concord, via Durham), Iowa (Des Moines, via Osceola), Louisiana (Baton Rouge, via Hammond).

The others (10) appear to be more than about 50 miles from an Amtrak stop, which is not necessarily in the same state (Columbus, OH, for instance, looks like a near-tossup for Cincinnati OH or Portsmouth KY as the closest stop). As noted above, 2 in the lower 48 states have no scheduled Amtrak service at all.

Are state capitals "rural?" Some probably are by big city standards. But not all. And at least 12 have no convenient Amtrak service, if there's any in the state at all.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Should The Long Distance Trains Be Taken Away From Amtrak? Credit to T.O. 05-09-2019 - 23:48
  Re: Should The Long Distance Trains Be Taken Away From Amtrak? BOB2 05-10-2019 - 06:55
  Thanks to BOB Dash Two Roscoe 05-10-2019 - 07:33
  Cost and subsidies aside rural freight 05-10-2019 - 08:36
  Re: Cost and subsidies aside- That is not the theis that Noel is supposedly proposing, however.... BOB2 05-10-2019 - 09:27
  Re: Cost and subsidies aside o'toole's ghost 05-10-2019 - 09:51
  doesn't sound like you've done much rural existence ruralite 05-10-2019 - 10:53
  Re: doesn't sound like you've done much rural existence Vanderbilt 05-10-2019 - 12:03
  Re: doesn't sound like you've done much rural existence T37HC 05-10-2019 - 13:01
  Re: doesn't sound like you've done much rural existence keep in mind 05-10-2019 - 13:10
  Re: Wow, without Amtrak in rural America, it sounds so bleak.....? BOB2 05-10-2019 - 13:25
  Re: Wow, without Amtrak in rural America, it sounds so bleak.....? i never said it has to be every where 05-10-2019 - 14:01
  Re: So what constitures "within reason' when it comes to the subsidy you feel would benefit rural America? Compared to what?? BOB2 05-10-2019 - 14:36
  Re: So what constitures "within reason' when it comes to the subsidy you feel would benefit rural America? Compared to what?? last word for KIA 05-10-2019 - 16:51
  Re: Compared to what??? Things we can measure and count...not emotional sophistry.... BOB2 05-10-2019 - 18:06
  Empire Builder could use a rework space ships rule 05-10-2019 - 17:22
  Re: Empire Builder could use a rework BNSF1995 05-10-2019 - 17:50
  Re: doesn't sound like you've done much rural existence states 05-10-2019 - 17:07
  @ States The Capitolist 05-11-2019 - 18:50
  Re: @ States states 05-12-2019 - 06:39
  move those damn dams better yet 05-10-2019 - 11:29
  @ rural freight City Dude 05-11-2019 - 19:08
  Re: Should The Long Distance Trains Be Taken Away From Amtrak? BNSF1995 05-10-2019 - 17:49


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