Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass
Author: Bruce Kelly
Date: 12-31-2020 - 17:01

To quote a line from one of my favorite movies, "Big things have small beginnings." And this thing could, possibly, get much bigger than just Uinta oil to the Gulf and Midwest grain to the Pacific.

Widen the view and look at this thing on a national rail map. Notice any other short lines or regionals that serve as a bridge between two sides of a Class I, providing the lower-cost means of doing the dirty work over major mountain grades? And in doing so, providing passage to trains that travel nearly coast-to-coast?

Next, look at the distant points that could be somewhat more directly connected (for UP customers, anyway) by a service lane via Tennessee Pass. PNW to the Gulf and Southeastern U.S., for example.

At the very least, Tennessee Pass would provide a route slightly parallel to what UP already has via southern Wyoming but shifted 100-200 miles south into Colorado, gaining UP the kind of "optionality" that BNSF takes great advantage of but UP has largely shunned in recent years.

And finally, a comparison of Tennessee Pass (TP) vs. the Moffat Route (MR). TP has a steeper max grade than MR. But how about the number and severity of curves, and the inherent long-term costs of wear to both rail and rolling stock. Steve Patterson once wrote a brilliant piece about the higher rates that were charged by one railroad vs. another based on the higher costs of rail replacement, wheel wear, crews (due to slower train speed), etc., when one route is more curvaceous than another. Would a train routed via TP provide a higher net profit than if it went via MR, or the other way around?

Last but not least, and this hinges on the points made above, consider which route, Tennessee vs. Moffat, has sufficient clearance for doublestacked marine containers, and which one doesn't.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass R & R 12-31-2020 - 13:41
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass WAF 12-31-2020 - 14:06
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass Nudge 01-01-2021 - 15:20
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass ??? 01-01-2021 - 17:07
  Re: SPNudge T.I.Runout 01-01-2021 - 23:40
  Re: SPNudge Nudge 01-02-2021 - 14:56
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass PC 12-31-2020 - 14:14
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass WAF 12-31-2020 - 14:46
  Rights to Sage, how do you get to Dotsero? Haven't heard anything from the UP about that TMer 12-31-2020 - 15:43
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass WAF 12-31-2020 - 14:46
  Rights to Sage, how do you get to Dotsero? Haven't heard anything from the UP about that TMer 12-31-2020 - 15:44
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass WAF 12-31-2020 - 14:46
  Rights to Sage, how do you get to Dotsero? Haven't heard anything from the UP about that TMer 12-31-2020 - 15:46
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass WAF 12-31-2020 - 14:46
  Rights to Sage, how do you get to Dotsero? Haven't heard anything from the UP about that TMer 12-31-2020 - 15:51
  Re: Rocks on tracks red bark beetle 12-31-2020 - 15:54
  Re: Rocks on tracks WAF 12-31-2020 - 16:23
  Re: Rocks on tracks Fullerton 12-31-2020 - 20:00
  Why is a raven like a writing desk? WebDigger 12-31-2020 - 20:34
  PAINT SCKEMES Timmy 01-01-2021 - 19:27
  Re: PAINT SCKEMES Rudi Toot Toot 01-01-2021 - 21:09
  Re: Rocks on tracks? They'll have to get their rocks off Gypsum Gypsy 12-31-2020 - 19:48
  Re: Rio Grande Pacific to Lease Tennessee Pass Northern Snowman 12-31-2020 - 14:18
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass Bruce Kelly 12-31-2020 - 17:01
  Tunnel trouble? Miller Time 12-31-2020 - 17:06
  Beer trouble? TMer 12-31-2020 - 18:03
  Re: Tunnel trouble? Robert 12-31-2020 - 21:59
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass Foamer with "one track mind" 12-31-2020 - 18:45
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass Beyond the pie in the sky 12-31-2020 - 18:50
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass Stupid comment where name goes 01-01-2021 - 04:24
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass tc 01-02-2021 - 08:33
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass ron 01-02-2021 - 09:31
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass White River Junction 01-02-2021 - 09:39
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass WAF 01-02-2021 - 09:59
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass ron 01-02-2021 - 10:29
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass my 2 cents 01-02-2021 - 11:08
  To Nudge WAF 01-02-2021 - 15:23
  Re: To Nudge Dr Zarkoff 01-02-2021 - 21:48
  Re: To Nudge FUD 01-02-2021 - 22:40
  Re: Rio Grande PACIFIC to Lease Tennessee Pass George Jenista 01-04-2021 - 20:21
  Tennessee Pass Reactivation - NIMBY/Non-NIMBY Reaction Goldminer 01-02-2021 - 11:34
  Dumb dumbs speak out Ted 01-03-2021 - 03:08
  Re: Dumb dumbs speak out Thin Air 01-03-2021 - 10:18
  Not so dumb Trackwuurk 01-03-2021 - 19:01
  Re: Tennessee Pass Reactivation - NIMBY/Non-NIMBY Reaction Fossil 01-03-2021 - 07:43


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