Escutia (former State Senator) makes you cringe every time she speaks, a complete embarrassment IMO. Camacho makes Tutor look like a saint when it comes to trying to direct funds to ones own pocket. Why SC reps chose these two is beyond me.


BOB2 Wrote:
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> An Observer Wrote:
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> > Since "LES" considers me clueless, guess I'll
> > continue.The "ktar" article is interesting in
> that
> > two points for their thrice daily service are
> well
> > West of downtown and as such this
> > effort is more a commuter line than one in
> which
> > Amtrak would be involved. As to my Belen to
> Casper
> > "corridor", there is way more political support
> > for Front Range service than anything that the
> > PHX-TUC corridor could develop. The key to any
> of
> > this new pot of money is political so you need
> > lots of friends. But, what do I know, I'm
> > clueless.
>
> So in the world of LES, you're clueless, and I'm
> one of those "slow thinking" "southern" types....
>
>
> I guess if one has so few strong arguments to make
> the case for, and justify the self evident
> wholesale incompetence and the sheer waste of
> taxpayer funds on the scale of the CAHSRA fiasco,
> one needs to use a lot of sophistry and attack the
> critics....
>
> Now, let's talk about the infrastructure bill and
> Phoenix....
>
> I am very interested in the break down of the
> Amtrak share, and how that will be parceled out,
> and under what kind of match and eligibiliy
> requirements. That has ramifications for projects
> like Del Mar bluffs. I am also looking to see it
> there is any money hidden in the bridges and
> highways, to supplement the piss poor level of
> funding for grade separations in the rail
> portion.
>
> I also saw several of these "press release" blurbs
> on "back to Phoenix", and on the Colorado project.
> And I agree with "clueless" people like you, who
> seem to suffer from too much experience with these
> kind of things, Phoenix is a long shot politically
> and it would be a very poor use of these scarce
> taxpayer funds, if it only restored direct thrice
> weekly service into Phoenix itself. Tucson makes
> a lot more sense, but UP will want seperate
> tracks, like with Coachella Valley. But, with
> that kind of front end investment cost, and very
> limited State match sources for rail in AZ, I
> don't see the numbers competing well against other
> more cost effective corridors, with more political
> support and local match.
>
> But what do I know after 53 years in the business,
> I'm probably "clueless" too...