Re: Reporting incidents
Author: GLC
Date: 08-18-2009 - 03:39

Ernest-
I think you're a good man but your chapter about SAFETY really grinds my gears. Your tone is condescending for one thing. The chapter is twice as long as it needs to be and leaves out critical pieces of information. People can make phone calls just fine without you dictating their every word.

I'd like to address specific statements of yours:

1. It isn't your prerogative to tell railfans what type of PPE safety wear to buy or when to wear it. When the opportunity presents itself, ask the railroad what to wear. I have a serious problem with this issue. Where I work, the color of your hard hat and/or safety vest is critical. We had a situation where a railroad contractor decided to wear their own safety vests, identical to the one worn by the brakeman on a local. The brakeman was nearly killed when the engineer shoved back. The conductor, who called the move, mistaked the contractor for his brakeman. He had no idea a railroad contractor was working in the area.

2. A small amount of brake smoke might not be a problem depending on the circumstances [i.e. heavy braking in mountain territory]. Covered hoppers with leaky dump doors, spilling cement, ashes, borates, or other minerals can appear like smoke. Bottom line, you have to be prudent without overreacting. If you have any doubt that it's smoke, tell the railroad when you call.

3. Reporting problems by milepost is a good idea but it requires other knowledge too. Towns with additional mainline routes, and those with industrial spurs, can have duplicate mileposts. It is additionally helpful to supply the subdivision name.

4. I wouldn't recommend calling 911 after notifying the railroad. You can bet the railroad is already calling them. Any discrepancy in the location will cause resources to be diverted to a second, non-existant, accident scene.

Your book doesn't say anything about handling emergencies when there isn't a phone available. Why not?



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  Stupidity in Action Drew Jacksich 08-15-2009 - 08:20
  Re: Stupidity in Action Freericks 08-15-2009 - 08:31
  Re: Stupidity in Action OldPoleBurner 08-15-2009 - 10:07
  Re: Stupidity in Action Freericks 08-15-2009 - 13:37
  Re: Stupidity in Action OldPoleBurner 08-15-2009 - 20:07
  Re: Stupidity in Action Freericks 08-15-2009 - 21:09
  Re: Stupidity in Action Mike T. 08-17-2009 - 09:56
  Re: Stupidity in Action redlynx 08-15-2009 - 09:08
  Re: Stupidity in Action Brian R. Curnow 08-15-2009 - 09:26
  Re: Stupidity in Action smitty195 08-15-2009 - 10:44
  Re: Stupidity in Action Drew Jacksich 08-15-2009 - 14:38
  Re: Stupidity in Action redlynx 08-15-2009 - 17:45
  Re: Stupidity in Action Alfred Doten 08-15-2009 - 14:35
  Re: Stupidity in Action Drew Jacksich 08-15-2009 - 19:43
  Re: Stupidity in Action E 08-15-2009 - 19:52
  Re: Stupidity in Action Mike T. 08-17-2009 - 10:04
  Re: Stupidity in Action WAF 08-15-2009 - 20:15
  Re: Stupidity in Action Jon 08-15-2009 - 20:32
  Re: Stupidity in Action Shortline Sammie 08-16-2009 - 07:54
  Re: Stupidity in Action Sam Reeves 08-16-2009 - 09:41
  Re: Hero in Action M. Harris 08-15-2009 - 22:04
  Re: Hero in Action Drew Jacksich 08-15-2009 - 22:15
  Re: Hero in Action Nick Gully 08-16-2009 - 10:37
  Re: Hero in Action George Andrews 08-16-2009 - 10:37
  Re: Hero in Action GTB 08-17-2009 - 14:32
  Re: Hero in Action John Bromley 08-17-2009 - 16:30
  Reporting incidents Ernest H. Robl 08-17-2009 - 19:22
  Re: Reporting incidents GLC 08-18-2009 - 03:39
  Re: Reporting incidents Drew Jacksich 08-18-2009 - 10:04
  Re: Reporting incidents Ernest H. Robl 08-18-2009 - 16:53
  Re: Reporting incidents That's a pretty 08-18-2009 - 18:37
  Re: Reporting incidents Ernest H. Robl 08-18-2009 - 19:12
  Re: Reporting incidents - stopping trains George Andrews 08-18-2009 - 19:30
  Re: Reporting incidents - stopping trains Ernest H. Robl 08-18-2009 - 20:03
  Re: Reporting incidents - stopping trains Drew Jacksich 08-18-2009 - 22:26
  Re: Reporting incidents - stopping trains with primitive signals? DzNtz 08-19-2009 - 21:36
  to George Andrews & others The Montezuma Yardmaster 08-21-2009 - 11:07
  Re: to George Andrews & others George Andrews 08-21-2009 - 17:00
  Re: to George Andrews & others OPRRMS 08-21-2009 - 19:33
  Re: to George Andrews & others OldPoleBurner 08-22-2009 - 11:09
  Re: Reporting incidents GLC 08-19-2009 - 01:36
  Re: Reporting incidents OPRRMS 08-19-2009 - 10:26
  Re: Reporting incidents WAF 08-19-2009 - 16:35
  Re: Reporting incidents OPRRMS 08-19-2009 - 17:10
  Re: John Kneiling ! ! ! OldPoleBurner 08-20-2009 - 10:42
  Re: OOPS ! ! ! OldPoleBurner 08-20-2009 - 11:12
  Re: Reporting incidents GLC 08-19-2009 - 19:30
  Re: Reporting incidents OPRRMS 08-19-2009 - 20:10
  Re: Reporting incidents GLC 08-19-2009 - 20:26
  Re: Reporting incidents Drew Jacksich 08-20-2009 - 10:04
  Re: Reporting incidents hilt23 08-20-2009 - 10:51
  Re: Reporting incidents Drew Jacksich 08-20-2009 - 11:04
  Re: Reporting incidents Semicolon? Italics? 08-20-2009 - 19:14
  Re: Fractured Fairy Tail Shakespeare 08-20-2009 - 20:51
  Re: Reporting incidents Dr Zarkoff 08-20-2009 - 21:43
  Re: Reporting incidents OPRRMS 08-20-2009 - 12:16
  Re: Reporting incidents GLC 08-19-2009 - 00:04


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