Re: Wire height standards
Author: Ken Shattock (aka 'KRK')
Date: 08-18-2009 - 06:16

Dr Zarkoff Wrote:
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> Unless the new GO 95 has changed things,
> operations like the Muni can have 17' trolley wire
> because all they run are streetcars; i.e.
> grandfathering not necessary. When you start
> getting involved with moving freight cars, then
> the 22 1/2' (or is it 23'?) standard kicks in.
> After WWII, the PUC made the Key System raise the
> height of the trolley wire from 19' because the SN
> was still operating freight there. They didn't
> make the Key raise the wire elsewhere, except for
> perhaps Poplar Street.

Why don't they just standardize like SP did with their "IER" commute train operation in the Eastbay... 22-feet !! Period !! Allowed them to run passenger or freight all they wanted to..
And speaking of Key System, my good Zarkoff, I don't believe your statement about the 19 foot thing. Raised it from 19 ft to what ?? 19-feet was already taller than the 4449 so what's the point ??
Also, how LOW can you go ??? Most everyone on here doesn't realize that the wire thru the KEY SUBWAY was only between 15 and 16 feet MAX.. And according to James Harrison,
SN freight locomotives operated thru here to get to the Army Base, besides SN interurbans, although no one has ever shown me photos of SN locos thru that Subway.
So please explain further, kind Sir !!

KRK



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR Mike Pechner 08-17-2009 - 09:53
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR BOB2 08-17-2009 - 15:03
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR Al Stangenberger 08-17-2009 - 16:10
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR Craig 08-17-2009 - 17:25
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR mook 08-17-2009 - 17:52
  Wire height standards Ernest H. Robl 08-17-2009 - 18:37
  Re: Wire height standards BOB2 08-17-2009 - 19:04
  Re: Wire height standards Dr Zarkoff 08-17-2009 - 19:25
  Re: Wire height standards Al Stangenberger 08-17-2009 - 20:17
  Re: Wire height standards Ken Shattock (aka 'KRK') 08-18-2009 - 06:16
  Re: Wire height standards George Andrews 08-18-2009 - 13:52
  Re: Wire height standards Dr Zarkoff 08-19-2009 - 19:19
  Third Rail Juice 08-18-2009 - 18:11
  Re: Third Rail Ernest H. Robl 08-18-2009 - 19:52
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR George Andrews 08-17-2009 - 19:31
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR synonymouse 08-17-2009 - 21:03
  Re: Freight users form group to save Peninsula traffic in light of HSR The Montezuma Yardmaster 08-18-2009 - 09:42


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