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Re: Job Insurance? An investment portfolio or a second marketable skill
Author: ukw
Date: 02-27-2011 - 18:41
Dr Zarkoff Wrote:
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> >to provide an income to a suspended or dismissed
> railroad employee after he or she has been removed
> from service for an alleged rule, CFR or company
> policy violation. Railroads don't have a
> "suspended with pay" scenario.
>
> The only thing I can add is that it may take years
> to exhaust the process of determining the
> propriety and applicability of any discipline
> assessed. Some cases are ultimately in favor of
> the employee, others aren't (recent cases I know
> of took nearly 3 years each; in one the employee
> won, the other, the employee lost). Job insurance
> tides the affeced individual over while not
> working (it may keep you from losing your house
> and/or family, never mind the car).
>
> If you think all cases of employee discipline are
> fair, then you don't know the story of the tunnel
> fire between Serrano and Chorro on the SP some 20
> years ago. The superintendent (LPM for those who
> know initials) was on the warpath looking for
> scapegoats and pulled the crew out of service. How
> on earth can a engine or train crew tell if the
> timbers are smouldering, particularly when it
> wasn't visible when the engines went through and
> there's no caboose? One of the local chairman in
> SPBI (SLOBICA on later computer printouts, both
> SP-ese for San Luis Obispo, CA) related the story
> of the investigation, and from an experienced
> railroader's point of view, it was hilarious the
> lengths the flunkies went to. To his credit, the
> next sup't issued a letter of full apology (forget
> his initials).
>
> You also have to keep in mind that these railroad
> disciplinary processes aren't subject to "regular"
> labor laws because not only do they predate them,
> they have been specifically placed under the
> jurisdiction of the RLA (Railway Labor Act), which
> also deliberately pre-empts local and state labor
> laws.
Let us in on the humor the "flunkies" who ever they were went to.
You have blamed the wrong guy. It was WJL not LPM. He was replaced by Dave Medley
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> >to provide an income to a suspended or dismissed
> railroad employee after he or she has been removed
> from service for an alleged rule, CFR or company
> policy violation. Railroads don't have a
> "suspended with pay" scenario.
>
> The only thing I can add is that it may take years
> to exhaust the process of determining the
> propriety and applicability of any discipline
> assessed. Some cases are ultimately in favor of
> the employee, others aren't (recent cases I know
> of took nearly 3 years each; in one the employee
> won, the other, the employee lost). Job insurance
> tides the affeced individual over while not
> working (it may keep you from losing your house
> and/or family, never mind the car).
>
> If you think all cases of employee discipline are
> fair, then you don't know the story of the tunnel
> fire between Serrano and Chorro on the SP some 20
> years ago. The superintendent (LPM for those who
> know initials) was on the warpath looking for
> scapegoats and pulled the crew out of service. How
> on earth can a engine or train crew tell if the
> timbers are smouldering, particularly when it
> wasn't visible when the engines went through and
> there's no caboose? One of the local chairman in
> SPBI (SLOBICA on later computer printouts, both
> SP-ese for San Luis Obispo, CA) related the story
> of the investigation, and from an experienced
> railroader's point of view, it was hilarious the
> lengths the flunkies went to. To his credit, the
> next sup't issued a letter of full apology (forget
> his initials).
>
> You also have to keep in mind that these railroad
> disciplinary processes aren't subject to "regular"
> labor laws because not only do they predate them,
> they have been specifically placed under the
> jurisdiction of the RLA (Railway Labor Act), which
> also deliberately pre-empts local and state labor
> laws.
Let us in on the humor the "flunkies" who ever they were went to.
You have blamed the wrong guy. It was WJL not LPM. He was replaced by Dave Medley
