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Re: NTSB Goodwell, OK, head-on collision animation and timeline
Author: OPRRMS
Date: 03-07-2013 - 11:40
OldPoleBurner Wrote:
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> But this more recent NTSB habit
> of making speculative "If this" or If that"
> assertions in their final reports, without
> including any factual data that backs them up;
> just reeks of bias.
I first noticed this when reading their conclusions in the final report on the Gunpow collision and going, "Wait! That doesn't make any logical sense." Seems like a lot of the time they present "facts" merely to support their conclusions.
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> Needless to say, my respect for them has
> diminished greatly - as they are turning into just
> another politically motivated and corrupted arm of
> government.
Agreed. I know of at least two incidents that happened on UP that they investigated where they didn't take public comment, and only relied on their own investigators and what was provided to them by the carrier. Had public comment been accepted for the final reports, the conclusion as to the cause of the incidents might've been different.
For example, this fatality: [www.ntsb.gov] The most glaring omission is the lack of inclusion of the root cause, which was made known to the agency but not included in the final report because no public comment was allowed. Had it been, primary blame would've been shifted from the fatally injured employee to the carrier's ongoing lack of oversight for permitting several practices and rule violations to continue for the five years leading up to the incident, which the carrier clearly did so as not to upset the RCL bandwagon.
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>snip
> But this more recent NTSB habit
> of making speculative "If this" or If that"
> assertions in their final reports, without
> including any factual data that backs them up;
> just reeks of bias.
I first noticed this when reading their conclusions in the final report on the Gunpow collision and going, "Wait! That doesn't make any logical sense." Seems like a lot of the time they present "facts" merely to support their conclusions.
> snip
> Needless to say, my respect for them has
> diminished greatly - as they are turning into just
> another politically motivated and corrupted arm of
> government.
Agreed. I know of at least two incidents that happened on UP that they investigated where they didn't take public comment, and only relied on their own investigators and what was provided to them by the carrier. Had public comment been accepted for the final reports, the conclusion as to the cause of the incidents might've been different.
For example, this fatality: [www.ntsb.gov] The most glaring omission is the lack of inclusion of the root cause, which was made known to the agency but not included in the final report because no public comment was allowed. Had it been, primary blame would've been shifted from the fatally injured employee to the carrier's ongoing lack of oversight for permitting several practices and rule violations to continue for the five years leading up to the incident, which the carrier clearly did so as not to upset the RCL bandwagon.
