Re: UP Track Warrant...
Author: ex-BN
Date: 11-05-2013 - 20:28

SP5103 Wrote:
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>
> I wouldn't advise treating CTC within Yard Limits
> just like any other CTC, because there is a
> definite rule difference that could be used as a
> trap by your friendly neighborhood weed weasel.
> Part of Rule 6.13 currently states: "In CTC
> Territory - Where yard limits are in effect in CTC
> territory, the control operator must authorize any
> movement on the main track. Reverse movements
> within the same block may be made as outlined in
> Rule 6.4.1 (Permission for Reverse Movements)." No
> surprise here since the CTC requirement to obtain
> a control operators authority applies. But before
> that, it states: "All movements entering or moving
> within yard limits must be made at restricted
> speed unless operating under a block signal
> indication that is more favorable than Approach.
> Upon observing or having advance knowledge that a
> block signal may require restricted speed due to
> yard limits, if entering or within yard limits,
> the movement must be at restricted speed at that
> block signal, or as soon as possible thereafter,
> consistent with good train handling."

I did forget to mention that we are required to operate at restricted speed on a yellow signal in CTC + YL. Other than that I see no difference between CTC and CTC + YL. However the conversion of ABS + YL to CTC + YL did add another restriction. There are several hand throw switches that are not protected by electric locks. Therefore the rules require a maximum of 20mph head end restriction in the area of these switches if those tracks are to be used to clear an engine (and they are--with a switch engine). So in effect the CTC slows down the YL track and YL slows down the CTC.

Some people may not realize that an engine may not clear at a hand throw switch in CTC that is not equipped with an electric lock unless the speed is 20mph or less (30mph on a controlled siding). I remember a case where a cabless unit had to be set out at the nearest switch. It was a hand throw without an electric lock so the dispatcher issued a temporary slow order of 20 mph to comply with the rule. We laughed since a cabless unit (a B30-7A) could not ever enter the main on its own and felt the engine should have been treated as a boxcar. Of course rules are rules and even when they don't make sense must be complied with.

[SP5103: If you wish I could send you a copy of the TT that includes the CTC + YL territory.]



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  UP Track Warrant... Outsider 11-04-2013 - 15:46
  Re: UP Track Warrant... JDM 11-04-2013 - 16:31
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Outsider 11-04-2013 - 16:55
  Re: UP Track Warrant... ex-BN 11-04-2013 - 19:46
  Re: UP Track Warrant... SP5103 11-05-2013 - 10:47
  Re: UP Track Warrant... ex-BN 11-05-2013 - 20:28
  Re: UP Track Warrant... SP5103 11-06-2013 - 09:47
  Re: UP Track Warrant... George Andrews 11-06-2013 - 19:26
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Mark 11-07-2013 - 02:02
  Re: UP Track Warrant... SP5103 11-07-2013 - 09:39
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Dr Zarkoff 11-07-2013 - 15:46
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Mark 11-07-2013 - 17:27
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Mark 11-07-2013 - 17:20
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Dr Zarkoff 11-07-2013 - 09:01
  Yard Limit Rule Changes SP5103 11-07-2013 - 13:59
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Mistertower 11-05-2013 - 10:04
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Mistertower 11-05-2013 - 10:08
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Outsider 11-05-2013 - 13:39
  Re: UP Track Warrant... Outsider 11-05-2013 - 13:33


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