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04-11-2010 - 18:57

OPRRMS

31. Re: Alameda Belt Line discontinuance of service decision

Juppo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mook Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Neat little pseudo-SF paint job. Interesting
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04-11-2010 - 14:42

Juppo

32. Re: Alameda Belt Line discontinuance of service decision

mook Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Neat little pseudo-SF paint job. Interesting that > the line was actually jointly owned by BNSF and > UP. The BNSF discontinua
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04-11-2010 - 13:40

mook

33. Re: Alameda Belt Line discontinuance of service decision

Neat little pseudo-SF paint job. Interesting that the line was actually jointly owned by BNSF and UP. The BNSF discontinuance petition was published about a week ago.
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04-10-2010 - 23:13

Steve Sloan

34. Re: Alameda Belt Line discontinuance of service decision

It was a neat little railroad: http://homepage.mac.com/s_sloan/trains/abl/abl2144_0001.jpg ~Steve Sloan
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04-08-2010 - 20:07

OPRRMS

35. Alameda Belt Line discontinuance of service decision

Decision: http://www.stb.dot.gov/decisions/readingroom.nsf/fc695db5bc7ebe2c852572b80040c45f/b99a33898d1da860852576f900516fe5?OpenDocument The decision is merely a formality. There has been no rai
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12-05-2009 - 18:51

John

36. Key System/SP Now Part 4 actually Alameda

This picture is not actually of Key System or SP history but rather the old Alameda Belt Line ROW along Atlantic Ave looking away from NAS Alameda (it will always be NAS Alameda to me!). Growing up I
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08-04-2009 - 18:13

GTB

37. Re: Chad - Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

The Key System used the Park St. bridge for one streetcar line and the Webster St. bridge for a different line. The Southern Pacific / Interurban Electric Red Trains used the Old Fruitvale bridge and
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07-15-2009 - 04:57

Ken Shattock (aka 'KRK')

38. Re: Chad - Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Regarding the Fruitvale Rail Bridge and the website provided by "Castlebridge" containing the topic "Ghosts of the ABL" (model railroading) ... At NO time did Interurban Electric (SP) or Key System
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07-14-2009 - 20:56

OPRRMS

39. Chad - Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Chad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All, Thanks for all the history, but I don't think > that was what I was looking for. > > No one actually answered if freigh
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07-14-2009 - 20:56

Freddie

40. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Del Monte Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tracks leading to the bridge are removed. That sounds pretty clear to me. And, pretty sad.
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07-14-2009 - 20:23

Chad

41. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

All, Thanks for all the history, but I don't think that was what I was looking for. No one actually answered if freight still comes to Alameda or across the Fruitvale Rail Bridge. There is a sma
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07-14-2009 - 09:07

OPRRMS

42. Re: ABL and Related photos

Castlebridge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ABL "Ghosts": > http://modelrailroading.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/g > hosts-of-the-alameda-belt-line/ Interesting
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07-14-2009 - 08:59

The Montezuma Yardmaster

43. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Thank you for that history, Ken. I knew that the present Fruitvale rail bridge was not very old. Bert
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07-14-2009 - 00:50

Castlebridge

44. ABL and Related photos

F'vale rr bridge c'weight: http://home.comcast.net/~kenseq/bridges/images/tour/rail/rrcounter.jpg Other F'vale rr bridge pix: http://home.comcast.net/~kenseq/bridges/tourrail.html Other Alameda brid
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07-13-2009 - 22:25

OPRRMS

45. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

JohnG Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had seen a post somewhere that the shell of the > S2 was still in the yard? Is that true or has it > been removed and sc
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07-13-2009 - 22:21

OPRRMS

46. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

stash Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Fruitvale railroad bridge is kept in a > half-raised position, adequate for most vessel > traffic. Boats with tall masts
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07-13-2009 - 22:18

JohnG

47. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Hi - I had seen a post somewhere that the shell of the S2 was still in the yard? Is that true or has it been removed and scrapped? thanks John
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07-13-2009 - 22:14

OPRRMS

48. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

WAF Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rich, what (who) was the John Stevens Zipper. Came > out of East Oakland to Homestead/Desert John was one of the "Old Heads
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07-13-2009 - 22:10

stash

49. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

The Fruitvale railroad bridge is kept in a half-raised position, adequate for most vessel traffic. Boats with tall masts get a higher lift to pass. It's controlled by the Miller Sweeney bridge operato
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07-13-2009 - 20:08

Castlebridge

50. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Here's Ala Co's F'vale rr bridge page: http://www.acgov.org/pwa/dept_maintenance_operation_fruitvale_avenue_railroad_bridge.shtml. For the other bridges around Alameda (city), go to http://www.acgov.o
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07-13-2009 - 19:52

Ken Shattock (aka 'KRK')

51. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

The original Fruitvale Bridge was a swing-span. The autos and SP-IER Red Trains shared the same span. In 1951, a new RR bridge was built which separated the autos and trains. Here is some more in
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07-13-2009 - 19:28

WAF

52. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Rich, what (who) was the John Stevens Zipper. Came out of East Oakland to Homestead/Desert
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07-13-2009 - 17:09

OPRRMS

53. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

WAF Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sad.. no more Alameda Belt drags straining to make > it to Fruitvale with an S-6 Ah, yes. The Good Ol' Days! As trivia,
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07-13-2009 - 16:31

The Montezuma Yardmaster

54. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

I fear that the bridge will never see any rail traffic again.
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07-13-2009 - 16:29

WAF

55. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

OPRRMS Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Del Monte Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > The bridge serves auto traffic as wel
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07-13-2009 - 16:07

Eugene

56. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Although the residents of Alameda would likely object to it, the nature of their neighborhoods seem to me to be very compatible with a heritage trolley operation. Would be pretty neat to see replica
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07-13-2009 - 16:05

OPRRMS

57. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Del Monte Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The bridge serves auto traffic as well if I recall > correctly. There are separate rail and roadway bridges. The roa
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07-13-2009 - 13:51

Del Monte

58. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

The bridge serves auto traffic as well if I recall correctly. How about an interurban trolley line to serve Fruitvale and Park St.?
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07-13-2009 - 12:44

espee99

59. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

So now they can take down the bridge?
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07-13-2009 - 11:31

Del Monte

60. Re: Alameda Belt Line-Any Freight Remaining?

Pennzoil is 100% truck service.
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