Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality?
Author: mook
Date: 09-29-2014 - 09:36

I see CAHSR as having a flawed conception (yes, thanks to QK and friends) but a good concept. There are in fact lots of problems to plan and engineer around, which is nothing new in CA, but I think in recent years the Authority has tried to deal with them intelligently. They're just hamstrung by the original setup. Of course, I suspect that the original cynical idea was to get some money for transit (BART extension to San Jose), and prevent anything from being done with the rest by setting up conflicting requirements that can't all be met.

As far as the NNNs, which I sometimes come across as but don't intend to be, they are NIMBY writ large, plus a large admixture of the "govt. can't do anything right" view that's common in the U.S. Asking if they have a better idea doesn't work because their only real response is "let the private sector do it - if they won't it's not worth doing." But the private sector has significant limitations when it comes to doing something that won't turn a real profit for 20-30 years at best (counting full cost, not just operating). Among other things, that doesn't turn on stock market investors. Then, of course, they try to kill even private sector projects with some success (Desert Xpress) and still going on (the Florida service FEC is trying to set up).

So CAHSR is really just a really big, easy target; the NNNs are against almost everything, similar to the CAVEmen of planning fame (Citizens Against Virtually Everything). Have you tried building a road (or even a small piece of one) lately?



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  4 miles of 3.5% at Tehachapi can be repurposed? synonymouse 09-28-2014 - 11:23
  Re: 4 miles of 3.5% at Tehachapi can be repurposed? Just Don't Do It 09-28-2014 - 12:00
  Re: 4 miles of 3.5% at Tehachapi can be repurposed? Rich Hunn 09-28-2014 - 12:11
  Re: 4 miles of 3.5% at Tehachapi can be repurposed? A.S.C. 09-28-2014 - 13:26
  Re: 4 miles of 3.5% at Tehachapi can be repurposed? mook 09-28-2014 - 14:38
  Re: Desert Water Lake Broadwell Ed Workman 09-28-2014 - 15:31
  Re: Desert Water Lake Broadwell Rich Hunn 09-28-2014 - 17:31
  Tehachapi Sgt. Joe Friday 09-28-2014 - 19:19
  Re: Desert Water Lake Broadwell TomL 09-28-2014 - 19:23
  Re: Desert Water Lake Broadwell mook 09-28-2014 - 21:55
  Re: Desert Water Lake Broadwell Max Wyss 09-29-2014 - 01:53
  Here is what they should do $$$$ 09-29-2014 - 09:08
  Re: Here is what they should do mook 09-29-2014 - 09:41
  Bay Bridge, CHSR Rusty Bolts 09-28-2014 - 20:17
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? BOB2 09-29-2014 - 08:56
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? mook 09-29-2014 - 09:36
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? synonymouse 09-29-2014 - 09:38
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? Ed Workman 09-29-2014 - 09:44
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? mook 09-29-2014 - 09:59
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? synonymouse 09-29-2014 - 11:23
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? david vartanoff 09-29-2014 - 11:48
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? BOB2 09-29-2014 - 14:58
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? Anonymoose 09-29-2014 - 15:42
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? John McCain 09-29-2014 - 16:42
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? Margaret (SP fan) 09-30-2014 - 00:48
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? Max Wyss 09-30-2014 - 05:29
  Re: CHSRA- Nimby Nonsense Mentality? BOB2 09-30-2014 - 08:15
  Re: CHSRA- Nimby Nonsense Mentality? Max Wyss 09-30-2014 - 10:30
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? mook 09-30-2014 - 08:55
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? BOB2 09-30-2014 - 09:25
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? mook 09-30-2014 - 09:21
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? synonymouse 09-30-2014 - 11:03
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? BOB2 09-30-2014 - 11:56
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? Rich Hunn 09-30-2014 - 12:25
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? synonymouse 09-30-2014 - 13:52
  Re: CHSRA-Can't Do Mentality? synonymouse 09-30-2014 - 13:42


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