Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies
Author: Peter
Date: 03-15-2015 - 10:36

@ Margaret (SP fan)

Electrifying Caltrain actually provides Caltrain with a number of benefits.

First, it can maximize passenger capacity per train length by using EMUs (instead of having "dead" space taken up by the locomotive).

Second, it allows Caltrain to run more trains per hour (better acceleration and braking plus higher top speed) WITHOUT increasing the fleet size or having to increase its workforce. Given that payroll is one of the largest expenses for any operation, this is a HUGE benefit.

Third, it allows Caltrain to shed a large portion of its aging fleet (get rid of the Gallery Cars as well as the F40s) and lower its maintenance budget. Personally, I think they should dump the entire current fleet for all operations between Tamien and SF, and IIRC, they may be considering just that now.

Fourth, it does away with smelly and noisy diesels. That's not a benefit to Caltrain, but to everyone living nearby.

There is of course a strong argument to be made that the electrification project is disturbingly overpriced, as is CBOSS, but that doesn't change the rationale for electrification itself.

Again, as for the impact of Caltrain electrification on the grid overall, the effect will be miniscule. A large housing development likely uses more electricity per day. Also, remember that electric trains can recover a good portion of their kinetic energy via regenerative braking, which lowers their impact even more. HSR at full build-out will most definitely use a lot more than Caltrain (more energy needed to maintain high speeds), but still a very small percentage (IIRC much less than one percent) of the state's overall electricity consumption.

The rolling blackout fee is not going to go away if Caltrain is not electrified or HSR is not built. Neither Caltrain nor HSR are going to cause rolling blackouts.

Also, no one is looking at expanding hydro power in California. Expansion of renewables in California will mainly come via solar and wind power (of course, both of those cause their own environmental impacts, but that is a different story altogether).



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  California has about one year of water left. Taxpayer 03-13-2015 - 08:54
  Re: California has about one year of water left. Born in California 03-13-2015 - 09:50
  Re: California has about one year of water left. mook 03-13-2015 - 11:36
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops Margaret (SP fan) 03-13-2015 - 12:36
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops synonymouse 03-13-2015 - 12:43
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops Bruce Kelly 03-13-2015 - 12:45
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops mook 03-13-2015 - 17:09
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops mook 03-13-2015 - 21:33
  Re: @ Margaret (SP Fan) History Buff 03-13-2015 - 18:20
  Re: @ synonymouse & History Buff Margaret (SP fan) 03-13-2015 - 18:48
  Re: @ synonymouse & History Buff mook 03-13-2015 - 19:33
  CHSR Low Speed Steam 03-14-2015 - 13:04
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops Peter 03-14-2015 - 18:15
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops mook 03-14-2015 - 18:50
  @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies Margaret (SP fan) 03-14-2015 - 19:36
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies mook 03-14-2015 - 20:22
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies Margaret (SP fan) 03-15-2015 - 00:46
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies Peter 03-15-2015 - 10:36
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies mook 03-15-2015 - 13:44
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies synonymouse 03-15-2015 - 11:13
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies Sumotuwe 03-15-2015 - 12:10
  Re: @ mook and Peter --- Thank you! -- and some questions -- TIA for all kind replies Edward 03-15-2015 - 14:21
  Re: California has about one year of water left -- effect on some RR ops Lance 03-15-2015 - 08:00
  Re: California has about one year of water left. Bull Moose 03-13-2015 - 15:15
  Re: California has about one year of water left. Edward 03-13-2015 - 21:04
  Re: California has about one year of water left. Edward 03-13-2015 - 21:19
  Re: California has about one year of water left. David Smith 03-14-2015 - 13:46
  Tank Trains not the absolute solution but it would be far cheaper than-- G-Plate 03-17-2015 - 10:35


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