Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly
Author: BOB2
Date: 05-13-2015 - 09:32

I am going wait, unlike the media, in jumping to speed related conclusions. 5103 makes some interesting points. The damage and location of the engine may not have required "excess" speeds on this curve, just good old fashioned mass and gravity could explain it, even at the applicable speed restriction for that curve.

Yes, the general level of ignorance in all things requiring any actual knowledge of science or math in the media is appalling.....as usual.

Without getting into detail, there are several other potential "mechanical" issues that have cropped up lately, that also could have caused this accident. I am interested in the official black box speed and braking results, before believing what people of dubious reliability may post on "twitter"......



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly HUTCH 7.62 05-12-2015 - 18:59
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Jon 05-12-2015 - 19:07
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly James Bradley 05-12-2015 - 20:43
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly mook 05-12-2015 - 21:55
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly SP5103 05-12-2015 - 22:16
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Oh Boy.. 05-12-2015 - 22:28
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Oh Boy.. 05-12-2015 - 22:34
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly mook 05-12-2015 - 23:26
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Tom McCann 05-12-2015 - 23:25
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly DCA 05-12-2015 - 22:57
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Tom McCann 05-12-2015 - 23:45
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly James Bradley, Jr. 05-13-2015 - 01:25
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Chris Walker 05-13-2015 - 03:21
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly J 05-13-2015 - 03:51
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly SP5103 05-13-2015 - 08:26
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly BOB2 05-13-2015 - 09:32
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly OT Local 05-13-2015 - 09:32
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Espee99 05-13-2015 - 09:50
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly DCA 05-13-2015 - 10:04
  Amtrak train crash in Philly - some observations mook 05-13-2015 - 12:14
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Jim Fitzgerald 05-13-2015 - 14:10
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly P. Kepler 05-13-2015 - 10:37
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly AZebra 05-13-2015 - 16:47
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly HollySugarSW1 05-13-2015 - 17:06
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Kcjones 05-13-2015 - 20:29
  Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour Howard 05-13-2015 - 10:47
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour P. Kepler 05-13-2015 - 13:50
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour Howard 05-13-2015 - 14:05
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour Dr Zarkoff 05-13-2015 - 14:20
  A "sharp curve" - really? Richard 05-13-2015 - 14:05
  Re: A "sharp curve" - really? Ed Workman 05-13-2015 - 14:20
  Re: A "sharp curve" - really? Tom McCann 05-13-2015 - 14:48
  Re: A "sharp curve" - really? Richard 05-13-2015 - 14:55
  Re: A "sharp curve" - really? P.Kepler 05-13-2015 - 14:57
  Re: A "sharp curve" - really? Richard 05-13-2015 - 16:22
  Re: A "sharp curve" - really? P.Kepler 05-13-2015 - 16:54
  Re: A "really sharp curve" - really Ed Workman 05-13-2015 - 17:06
  Re: A "really sharp curve" - really P. Kepler 05-13-2015 - 20:04
  NBC link Richard 05-14-2015 - 06:46
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour mook 05-13-2015 - 22:33
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour OPRRMS 05-13-2015 - 23:03
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour Edward 05-14-2015 - 00:18
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour Espee99 05-14-2015 - 14:43
  Re: Train appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour mook 05-14-2015 - 16:15
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly James Bradley, Jr. 05-14-2015 - 00:17
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly James Bradley, Jr. 05-14-2015 - 00:20
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly KRK 05-14-2015 - 06:57
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly WAF 05-14-2015 - 07:40
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Wondering 05-14-2015 - 07:56
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Tom McCann 05-14-2015 - 08:24
  Re: Amtrak train crash in Philly SP5103 05-14-2015 - 09:37
  Re: Amtrak train crash in Philly OT Local 05-14-2015 - 09:54
  Re: Amtrak train crash in Philly (correction) SP5103 05-14-2015 - 09:58
  Re: Amtrak train crash in Philly Ed Workman 05-14-2015 - 19:31
  Re: Amtrak train crash in Philly Dr Zarkoff 05-14-2015 - 21:04
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Dr Zarkoff 05-14-2015 - 10:33
  Re: Not just politicians and media, plenty of DF's on here, too? BOB2 05-14-2015 - 11:49
  Jurisdiction EFK 05-14-2015 - 14:19
  Re: Jurisdiction Espee99 05-14-2015 - 14:49
  Re: Jurisdiction Dr Zarkoff 05-14-2015 - 21:07
  Re: Jurisdiction EFK 05-15-2015 - 00:26
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly theconductor 05-14-2015 - 15:30
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Ed Workman 05-14-2015 - 19:41
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly mook 05-14-2015 - 20:27
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Dr Zarkoff 05-14-2015 - 21:10
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Breathless 05-14-2015 - 23:09
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Dr Zarkoff 05-14-2015 - 23:25
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Edward 05-15-2015 - 00:06
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly mook 05-15-2015 - 08:18
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Dr Zarkoff 05-15-2015 - 09:48
  Re: Breaking News Amtrak train crash in Philly Sadly 05-14-2015 - 12:39


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