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Re: A tug-of-war between Metro, Metrolink intensifies as thousands switch to cheaper Gold Line
Author: Goatboat
Date: 07-31-2017 - 16:00
BOB2 Wrote:
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> So job dispersion in LA is very real, and suburb
> to suburb commutes are a much larger share of work
> trips than all suburb to large centers trips. So
> one major failure of the TOD "new urbanist"
> planning movement has been the failure to put more
> "jobs", rather than just "housing", at or near
> rail stations.
Interesting you mention this. Up here in Portland, a lot of us are critical of MAX light rail because it provides virtually no 'burb to 'burb service - it is primarily a means of getting people into the downtown core from several different compass points.
Also, MAX seems less about moving people at the present time as it is about driving future development patterns. I have always thought this is why the overall transit ridership up here doesn't seem to be climbing like it should. MAX goes where urban planners want to see housing and employment centers develop, not so much to where they have already developed.
In SoCal, your development patterns are already well established, so your transit should be less concerned with driving development and more concerned about taking people to places where they want to go. It seems to me that a lot of transit folks forget about that detail.
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> So job dispersion in LA is very real, and suburb
> to suburb commutes are a much larger share of work
> trips than all suburb to large centers trips. So
> one major failure of the TOD "new urbanist"
> planning movement has been the failure to put more
> "jobs", rather than just "housing", at or near
> rail stations.
Interesting you mention this. Up here in Portland, a lot of us are critical of MAX light rail because it provides virtually no 'burb to 'burb service - it is primarily a means of getting people into the downtown core from several different compass points.
Also, MAX seems less about moving people at the present time as it is about driving future development patterns. I have always thought this is why the overall transit ridership up here doesn't seem to be climbing like it should. MAX goes where urban planners want to see housing and employment centers develop, not so much to where they have already developed.
In SoCal, your development patterns are already well established, so your transit should be less concerned with driving development and more concerned about taking people to places where they want to go. It seems to me that a lot of transit folks forget about that detail.
