Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...???
Author: Max Wyss
Date: 11-08-2018 - 03:10

Thanks for gathering that information.

FWIW, the VAT on gas in the EU is around 20% of the total (in other words, tax on tax too).

Depending on the country, between half and three quarters of that tax goes to road infrastructure/maintenance funds; some also support transit projects. The rest goes to the general coffers, as the VAT.

Local streets are only partly funded from those infrastructure funds, the rest comes from general local taxes.

About trucks: There are countries which actually have usage fees for trucks. Switzerland, for example, has the LSVA (Leistungsabhängige SchwerVerkehrsAbgabe). This is a system where trucks pay for road usage, depending on their load (well, empty or not empty). The information is gathered via an On Board Unit, where the driver has to set the status (empty, loaded, trailer, etc.). This unit records the kilometers driven. At regular intervals, the data is extracted, and the usage fee is calculated. The unit has a well visible display, allowing quick checks. If there are doubts about the selected mode, the police can check, and if there is a mismatch, fines may be substantial. The system works reasonably well, and with that, trucks get closer to pay honest usage fees (they are still subsidized, however).

Systems do exist, and a transfer to usage fees will become necessary sooner or later.



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  Good News for Rail Transit in California Ostrum 11-07-2018 - 11:44
  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California David Dewey 11-07-2018 - 12:00
  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California david vartanoff 11-07-2018 - 12:20
  Bull Kraut 11-07-2018 - 12:38
  Re: Bull Commenter 11-07-2018 - 12:48
  Re: Bull david vartanoff 11-07-2018 - 12:57
  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-07-2018 - 13:47
  Re: Bull Pdxrailtransit 11-07-2018 - 14:05
  Re: Bull Sumotuwe 11-07-2018 - 14:59
  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-07-2018 - 15:26
  Re: Bull synonymouse 11-07-2018 - 20:56
  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-08-2018 - 07:31
  Re: Bull Dr Zarkoff 11-08-2018 - 14:32
  Re: Bull- Actually I think that most Americans like me who took an oath to protect it actually do support our constituion BOB2 11-08-2018 - 16:29
  Re: Bull- Actually I think that most Americans like me who took an oath to protect it actually do support our constituion Put your money where your mouth is. 11-08-2018 - 17:57
  Re: Bull- Actually I think that most Americans like me who took an oath to protect it actually do support our constituion Dr Zarkoff 11-09-2018 - 00:00
  Re: Bull- Actually I think that most Americans like me who took an oath to protect it actually do support our constituion UNP104 11-09-2018 - 02:07
  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-08-2018 - 17:40
  Re: Bull Dr Zarkoff 11-08-2018 - 23:29
  Re: Bull Not Drew! 11-08-2018 - 20:49
  Re: The Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-09-2018 - 10:27
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  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-08-2018 - 08:01
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  Re: Bull Not Drew! 11-08-2018 - 18:25
  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-09-2018 - 10:23
  Re: Bull Dr Zarkoff 11-09-2018 - 10:59
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  Re: Bull Dr Zarkoff 11-09-2018 - 17:18
  Re: Bull HUTCH 7.62 11-09-2018 - 19:25
  Re: Bull Dr Zarkoff 11-10-2018 - 11:32
  Re: Bull Jeff Lebowski 11-10-2018 - 15:39
  Re: Bull Dr Zarkoff 11-10-2018 - 18:42
  Re: Bull Wooderson 11-10-2018 - 20:14
  Re: Bull UBER DRIVER 11-07-2018 - 23:55
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  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California synonymouse 11-07-2018 - 12:39
  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California Commenter 11-07-2018 - 12:41
  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California Amtrak784 11-07-2018 - 13:15
  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California CHP 11-08-2018 - 07:42
  Re: Good News for Rail Transit in California Argonaut 11-07-2018 - 12:52
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? BOB2 11-07-2018 - 13:56
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? tundraboomer 11-07-2018 - 14:22
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? david vartanoff 11-07-2018 - 15:55
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? tundraboomer 11-07-2018 - 18:03
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Commenter 11-07-2018 - 16:08
  Thank you for this context Clem 11-07-2018 - 22:11
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Max Wyss 11-08-2018 - 03:10
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Make California Great Again 11-07-2018 - 16:45
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Make Your Mom Great Again 11-07-2018 - 23:52
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? tundraboomer 11-10-2018 - 12:50
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Commenter 11-10-2018 - 17:22
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Don’t Californicate Arizonia 11-10-2018 - 20:18
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Sumotuwe 11-07-2018 - 15:05
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Jasper 11-07-2018 - 15:59
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Ura Poopyhead 11-07-2018 - 18:32
  Re: Good News??? Yeah, for some Rail Transit in California, but...??? Nussel Snouts 11-07-2018 - 21:52
  Re: Good News..... Whiners, truck costs, and technologies to do it right??? BOB2 11-08-2018 - 04:48
  Re: Good News..... Whiners, truck costs, and technologies to do it right??? Ed Workman 11-08-2018 - 07:10
  Re: Good News..... Whiners, truck costs, and technologies to do it right??? J Mann 11-08-2018 - 08:36
  Re: Good News..... Whiners, truck costs, and technologies to do it right??? George Andrews 11-08-2018 - 10:55
  Re: Good News..... Whiners, truck costs, and technologies to do it right??? J Mann 11-08-2018 - 14:06
  Re: Good News..... Whiners, truck costs, and technologies to do it right??? Nussel Snouts 11-08-2018 - 13:36
  Re: Meanwhile in Missouri Don't Show Me 11-07-2018 - 19:57
  Re: Meanwhile in Missouri DELETE THIS THREAD!!!! 11-08-2018 - 22:59
  Re: Meanwhile in Missouri-Delete this thread? What's wrong are you RU Trolls melting like little snow flakes? BOB2 11-09-2018 - 02:13
  Re: Meanwhile in Missouri-Delete this thread? What's wrong are you RU Trolls melting like little snow flakes? Ostrum 11-09-2018 - 07:28
  Re: Meanwhile in Missouri-Delete this thread? What's wrong are you RU Trolls melting like little snow flakes? n9949y 11-09-2018 - 10:17
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