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Re: Oakland WB/EB Main Lines At 7th Street Question
Author: OPRRMS
Date: 11-22-2020 - 17:25
WAF Wrote:
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> > > Wasn't Freight 1 and 2 during MDO's regime
> and
> > > later. Prior it was Mainline 1 and 2
> >
> > Can't say. I always knew them as Freight
> Leads,
> > although occasionally someone would refer to
> them
> > as "Main Line 1" or "Main Line 2" on the radio.
> >
> > In any event they were never main tracks;
> rather,
> > although they were signaled in both directions,
> > they were OTOH (Other Than Main Track) with 10
> MPH
> > speed limits.
>
> When you read Rule 606 in ETT in the 70s for 16th
> st limits, it doesn't give any particular track
> reference except freight lead 1. Get to 1980, now
> its limits extend from signals 330 feet east of MP
> 5 for track 1,2,3 and 4. Electric 5 and 6 are just
> track 5 and 6. So maybe 1 and 2 at some time were
> referred to as Mainline 1 and 2 and it just kept.
> I have radio recordings from the early 70s and
> 16st telling a switch engine to go past the red
> interlocking signal on mainline 1 to the rear of
> the freight on mainline 1. I do remember when
> Ongerth came on the scene, authority was changed
> to Freight 1 and 2. 3 and 4 were still called
> mainline tracks
I don't doubt it. The change would've likely been related to MofW terminology or FRA regulations, since 1 and 2 were only maintained to Class 1 standards.
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> OPRRMS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WAF Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Wasn't Freight 1 and 2 during MDO's regime
> and
> > > later. Prior it was Mainline 1 and 2
> >
> > Can't say. I always knew them as Freight
> Leads,
> > although occasionally someone would refer to
> them
> > as "Main Line 1" or "Main Line 2" on the radio.
> >
> > In any event they were never main tracks;
> rather,
> > although they were signaled in both directions,
> > they were OTOH (Other Than Main Track) with 10
> MPH
> > speed limits.
>
> When you read Rule 606 in ETT in the 70s for 16th
> st limits, it doesn't give any particular track
> reference except freight lead 1. Get to 1980, now
> its limits extend from signals 330 feet east of MP
> 5 for track 1,2,3 and 4. Electric 5 and 6 are just
> track 5 and 6. So maybe 1 and 2 at some time were
> referred to as Mainline 1 and 2 and it just kept.
> I have radio recordings from the early 70s and
> 16st telling a switch engine to go past the red
> interlocking signal on mainline 1 to the rear of
> the freight on mainline 1. I do remember when
> Ongerth came on the scene, authority was changed
> to Freight 1 and 2. 3 and 4 were still called
> mainline tracks
I don't doubt it. The change would've likely been related to MofW terminology or FRA regulations, since 1 and 2 were only maintained to Class 1 standards.
