And to echo Dick's comment, when they finally have enough tonnage to need to double Ridge. We
usually end up requoting the conveyors for the three possible rock producers about yearly, it's
been nearly two years. Both Redwood Empire and Mendocino Forest are running but barely. The most
optimistic thing that could be said would be that there's enough money around to keep this thing
afloat for five years until the traffic base might actually develop. If I'm a naysayer so be it
but at least I'm coming from a sound business standpoint.