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Re: Officer deserves to be charged
Author: RJ
Date: 03-12-2024 - 17:25
John Thompson Wrote:
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> As a retired police officer I am horrified by that
> footage. The responding officer should never have
> fired in a confined space like that.
>
> First mistake was not asking the Amtrak crew
> member what was going on, he just immediately went
> upstairs without knowing what to expect. Never
> asked him a single question besides "where is he
> at?"
>
> Second mistake was not calling for a backup unit
> and trying to handle the guy by himself.
>
> Third mistake was failure to de-escalate after
> scaring the guy awake. That never goes well
> because the human body is in a fight or flight
> response for a time. I encountered this a lot
> dealing with homeless folks. Give them thirty
> seconds to a minute to wake up at which time you
> CALMLY explain who you are and why you're there.
>
> Fourth mistake was not asking the guy to step off
> the train so they could talk outside. Inside a
> train (or plane) is not the place to deal with a
> combative suspect.
>
> Fifth mistake was not instructing the Amtrak crew
> member and nearby passengers to get the hell out
> of the way.
>
> Sixth mistake was firing the tazer in the same
> direction as the Amtrak employee. The officer had
> a chance to reposition himself to avoid this, but
> didn't.
>
> Seventh mistake was opening fire at the suspect as
> he fought with the Amtrak employee. This is
> mind-numbingly stupid with expected consequences.
> A miracle the Amtrak employee lived.
>
> The whole idea of public safety is that you don't
> endanger innocent people and put them in a worse
> situation than they were when you arrived on
> scene. I am beside myself looking at that
> officer's incompetent negligence. I say this whole
> recognizing that the suspect very possibly
> deserved to be shot, it just should not have
> happened the way it did.
Glad I'm retired from Amtrak, and do have to deal with that nonsense anymore...huh, Bob?
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> As a retired police officer I am horrified by that
> footage. The responding officer should never have
> fired in a confined space like that.
>
> First mistake was not asking the Amtrak crew
> member what was going on, he just immediately went
> upstairs without knowing what to expect. Never
> asked him a single question besides "where is he
> at?"
>
> Second mistake was not calling for a backup unit
> and trying to handle the guy by himself.
>
> Third mistake was failure to de-escalate after
> scaring the guy awake. That never goes well
> because the human body is in a fight or flight
> response for a time. I encountered this a lot
> dealing with homeless folks. Give them thirty
> seconds to a minute to wake up at which time you
> CALMLY explain who you are and why you're there.
>
> Fourth mistake was not asking the guy to step off
> the train so they could talk outside. Inside a
> train (or plane) is not the place to deal with a
> combative suspect.
>
> Fifth mistake was not instructing the Amtrak crew
> member and nearby passengers to get the hell out
> of the way.
>
> Sixth mistake was firing the tazer in the same
> direction as the Amtrak employee. The officer had
> a chance to reposition himself to avoid this, but
> didn't.
>
> Seventh mistake was opening fire at the suspect as
> he fought with the Amtrak employee. This is
> mind-numbingly stupid with expected consequences.
> A miracle the Amtrak employee lived.
>
> The whole idea of public safety is that you don't
> endanger innocent people and put them in a worse
> situation than they were when you arrived on
> scene. I am beside myself looking at that
> officer's incompetent negligence. I say this whole
> recognizing that the suspect very possibly
> deserved to be shot, it just should not have
> happened the way it did.
Glad I'm retired from Amtrak, and do have to deal with that nonsense anymore...huh, Bob?
