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Re: SP #6447 with Amtrak #6 at Oakland August 1972
Author: OPRRMS
Date: 09-23-2010 - 12:12
George Andrews Wrote:
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> The " Freight " F - Units with icicle bars were
> called F7P units by Espee. Built as SP Class DF -
> 4 and T&NO Class DF - 9 ,with boiler control
> panels on the fireman's side,( but no boilers in
> the cab units; only in B - units ); many later had
> passenger gearing installed. Considered reserve
> passenger units, many spent most of their time
> there after the early E Units & Alco PA's were
> retired. From Southern Pacific Historic Diesels
> Volume 3 " E - Units & Passenger F's ".
Good point, but it's a little more complicated than that. Of the 98 "F7Ps" (99 if you count the ex-Cotton Belt unit), only a relative handful ever received the breaker bars. The 6/30/1967 Diesel Locomotive Data book (put out periodically by the Mechanical Department; it was in loose-leaf format back then) shows these F7Ps as having them.
354
355
356
357
6190
6203
6383
6386
6388
6390
6391
6393
6441
6442
6444
6445
A few of the previously-retired F7Ps might've also had them, but not many.
The 355's were removed a year or so before it was retired, since by then passenger service had been conveyed to Amtrak and none of the F7Ps went there (it's P5R24 was also replaced with an A-200, for some strange reason).
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> The " Freight " F - Units with icicle bars were
> called F7P units by Espee. Built as SP Class DF -
> 4 and T&NO Class DF - 9 ,with boiler control
> panels on the fireman's side,( but no boilers in
> the cab units; only in B - units ); many later had
> passenger gearing installed. Considered reserve
> passenger units, many spent most of their time
> there after the early E Units & Alco PA's were
> retired. From Southern Pacific Historic Diesels
> Volume 3 " E - Units & Passenger F's ".
Good point, but it's a little more complicated than that. Of the 98 "F7Ps" (99 if you count the ex-Cotton Belt unit), only a relative handful ever received the breaker bars. The 6/30/1967 Diesel Locomotive Data book (put out periodically by the Mechanical Department; it was in loose-leaf format back then) shows these F7Ps as having them.
354
355
356
357
6190
6203
6383
6386
6388
6390
6391
6393
6441
6442
6444
6445
A few of the previously-retired F7Ps might've also had them, but not many.
The 355's were removed a year or so before it was retired, since by then passenger service had been conveyed to Amtrak and none of the F7Ps went there (it's P5R24 was also replaced with an A-200, for some strange reason).
