Re: SP speed - other than Daylight
Author: Grant Leslie
Date: 01-17-2016 - 18:50

I would like to add a bit of background information, not quite on topic but somewhat relevant. S.P. Salt Lake Division employee T/T No. 59 dated Nov. 12, 1944 shows that Trains 101 and 102 with "STREAMLINER DIESEL POWER UNIT" were allowed 95 MPH on quite a few sections between Sparks and Ogden. This same timetable shows that ATS was not installed at any point where these speeds were allowed.

Similarly, steam locomotives (4-6-2's, 4-8-2's, and 4-8-4's) were authorized for 70 MPH maximum over several of the same districts.

As several posts have noted, official speed limits were often "given a wink and a nod." I personally have ridden behind GS-4's on Train No. 98 which achieved speeds well over 80 MPH. I also have timed 4-6-2's on Train No's. 247 and 248 making above 80 MPH and this was a quite regular occurrence. The one-mile times I observed were measured with my wristwatch and may have been half a second or so in error. However, these were not one-time events, and I usually measured times for several miles in a given run.

Official limits were posted, but the actual speeds achieved were a different matter. Strictly as an aside, if the Barco Speed Recorder was not operating, or if a locomotive was not equipped with one, the crew often enjoyed the chance to "fly low" and the locomotives were quite capable of exceeding the posted limits.

I hope that the foregoing is of interest to the group. Respectfully,

Grant Leslie



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  SP Daylights questions Don B 01-15-2016 - 21:55
  Re: SP Daylights questions Nudge 01-16-2016 - 15:44
  Re: SP speed Tim 01-16-2016 - 16:58
  Re: SP speed Ken Shattock (KRK) 01-16-2016 - 21:00
  Re: SP speed Cprr 01-17-2016 - 07:52
  Re: SP speed BOB2 01-17-2016 - 08:48
  Re: SP speed Ken Shattock (KRK) 01-17-2016 - 09:13
  Re: SP speed j 01-17-2016 - 10:01
  Re: SP speed BOB2 01-17-2016 - 10:28
  Re: SP speed Dr Zarkoff 01-17-2016 - 11:40
  Re: SP Coast Daylight running times George Andrews 01-17-2016 - 12:16
  Re: SP Coast Daylight running times 79 MPH Max. Nudge 01-17-2016 - 12:54
  San Joaquin Daylight Fred's Nose 01-17-2016 - 14:15
  Re: San Joaquin Daylight Agentatascadero 01-17-2016 - 14:36
  Re: San Joaquin Daylight mook 01-17-2016 - 15:00
  Re: San Joaquin Daylight Dr Zarkoff 01-17-2016 - 16:55
  Re: San Joaquin Daylight OT Local 01-17-2016 - 17:33
  Capitol corridor speeds Espee99 01-18-2016 - 16:39
  Re: Capitol corridor speeds mook 01-18-2016 - 20:24
  Re: SP Coast Daylight running times 79 MPH Max. prompterJ 01-17-2016 - 20:25
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight Grant Leslie 01-17-2016 - 18:50
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight mook 01-17-2016 - 22:34
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight mook 01-17-2016 - 22:47
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight stash 01-18-2016 - 09:25
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight mook 01-18-2016 - 10:33
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight OPRRMS 01-18-2016 - 11:32
  Re: SP speed - other than Daylight Dr Zarkoff 01-18-2016 - 11:12
  Re: SP Daylights questions Margaret (SP fan) 01-18-2016 - 00:58
  Re: SP Commute Speeds Jim 01-18-2016 - 08:17


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