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Re: Yes, we should have bought the Coast Line, back when Phil Anschutz offered it to us for only $400 million, but we were governed by a fool.
Author: merv
Date: 10-20-2018 - 11:19
reply confusion Wrote:
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> Presumably you were responding to the "Bring It
> On" comment regarding purchase of the line, not
> the KSBY article mentioned by "Tony Cz" which
> didn't even mention the oil cans. The KSBY article
> was focused more on increased truck traffic for
> oil between the Santa Maria area (Phillips
> refinery?) and Bakersfield.
>
> What's the destination of the Cans? If it's
> refineries in the LA-Long Beach-Wilmington area,
> truck replacements will travel mostly on 101 then
> cut over to the refineries somehow - possibly 405,
> and will certainly be stuck in traffic in the
> Basin. Possibly, they would cut over to 5 on 46
> then enter the LA Basin via the Grapevine. If
> Bakersfield will take the oil, the route is almost
> certainly over 46. 166 would be well out of the
> way for traffic from Wunpost. Did the Cans serve
> Phillips? More 101 traffic if that's the case. In
> any case, if the extra load is 3 trucks an hour or
> so, it certainly won't by itself cause major
> congestion - it'll just contribute a bit to
> general deterioration. 70 trucks a day sounds bad,
> but if spaced out it's not serious.
>
> The Wunpost area oil fields have been producing
> for at least 100 years. Is there a pipeline in the
> area that can replace the Cans?
>
> I've seen UP do this before with other shippers
> and commodities. Even solid daily trains of
> business are too much trouble for them. They
> usually don't give any reason (is there one in
> this case?); they just jack up the rates to where
> the shipper can't afford the train any more ergo
> trucks. On the Coast, they can't really claim too
> much traffic, can they?
YOU Nailed that about UP doing that to the shippers.
Real simple question, how much today is the VCRR worth
today with only 5 or 6 customers and a crew that comes and
goes so much they are hiring H6 illegals to work and or class 1 reject
managers who use TWC and other unnecessary BS on the radio to play
CHOO-CHOO? Sounds like retards....LOL
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> Presumably you were responding to the "Bring It
> On" comment regarding purchase of the line, not
> the KSBY article mentioned by "Tony Cz" which
> didn't even mention the oil cans. The KSBY article
> was focused more on increased truck traffic for
> oil between the Santa Maria area (Phillips
> refinery?) and Bakersfield.
>
> What's the destination of the Cans? If it's
> refineries in the LA-Long Beach-Wilmington area,
> truck replacements will travel mostly on 101 then
> cut over to the refineries somehow - possibly 405,
> and will certainly be stuck in traffic in the
> Basin. Possibly, they would cut over to 5 on 46
> then enter the LA Basin via the Grapevine. If
> Bakersfield will take the oil, the route is almost
> certainly over 46. 166 would be well out of the
> way for traffic from Wunpost. Did the Cans serve
> Phillips? More 101 traffic if that's the case. In
> any case, if the extra load is 3 trucks an hour or
> so, it certainly won't by itself cause major
> congestion - it'll just contribute a bit to
> general deterioration. 70 trucks a day sounds bad,
> but if spaced out it's not serious.
>
> The Wunpost area oil fields have been producing
> for at least 100 years. Is there a pipeline in the
> area that can replace the Cans?
>
> I've seen UP do this before with other shippers
> and commodities. Even solid daily trains of
> business are too much trouble for them. They
> usually don't give any reason (is there one in
> this case?); they just jack up the rates to where
> the shipper can't afford the train any more ergo
> trucks. On the Coast, they can't really claim too
> much traffic, can they?
YOU Nailed that about UP doing that to the shippers.
Real simple question, how much today is the VCRR worth
today with only 5 or 6 customers and a crew that comes and
goes so much they are hiring H6 illegals to work and or class 1 reject
managers who use TWC and other unnecessary BS on the radio to play
CHOO-CHOO? Sounds like retards....LOL
