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Re: Noted dates for HSR

Author: LES

Date: 07-12-2021 - 09:22

If only one more section is financed the remainder of this decade it will be one of 3 choices (assumptions: HSD will be developed sooner rather than later and Brightline begins construction)

1) Bakersfield to Palmdale
2) Pacheco pass
3) Palmdale to Burbank

Which makes more sense.

#1 offers 250 miles of hsr performance, but misses out on decent endpoints. Also Metrolink
is the best rail connection for the time being.
#2 offers 283 miles of hsr performance with decent endpoints of SF and Bakersfield/Fresno
but not politically kosher given SCs political dynamics (not the sharpest
politicians or board members from SC these days); also requires significant local
investment in Gilroy to SF
#3 offers Brightline a straight shot to LA but leaves CV link dangling.

FUD Wrote:
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> Agree that in the South Burbank is the appropriate
> first-stage terminus. Palmdale is just too far
> away, whatever you do to patch up Metrolink's
> tracks. Caltrain is more or less straight, and
> even the present diesel-powered limited-stop runs
> can do SF-SJ in about an hour; an upgraded
> commuter railroad with some extra tracks can do
> the job for a long time. That's not the case in
> the south. Metrolink, of course, would be happy to
> use HSR money for track upgrades and
> electrification, but Palmdale is still 62 miles
> driving distance (and more, curvy, rail miles)
> from downtown LA. Metrolink currently takes more
> than 2 hours, though that of course includes many
> stops; but it's just not suitable even for
> moderately high speed use.

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LES Wrote:
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> If only one more section is financed the remainder
> of this decade it will be one of 3 choices
> (assumptions: HSD will be developed sooner rather
> than later and Brightline begins construction)
> 
> 1) Bakersfield to Palmdale
> 2) Pacheco pass
> 3) Palmdale to Burbank
> 
> Which makes more sense.
> 
> #1 offers 250 miles of hsr performance, but misses
> out on decent endpoints. Also Metrolink 
>    is the best rail connection for the time
> being.
> #2 offers 283 miles of hsr performance with decent
> endpoints of SF and Bakersfield/Fresno
>    but not politically kosher given SCs political
> dynamics (not the sharpest 
>    politicians or board members from SC these
> days); also requires significant local 
>    investment in Gilroy to SF
> #3 offers Brightline a straight shot to LA but
> leaves CV link dangling.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> FUD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Agree that in the South Burbank is the
> appropriate
> > first-stage terminus. Palmdale is just too far
> > away, whatever you do to patch up Metrolink's
> > tracks. Caltrain is more or less straight, and
> > even the present diesel-powered limited-stop
> runs
> > can do SF-SJ in about an hour; an upgraded
> > commuter railroad with some extra tracks can do
> > the job for a long time.  That's not the case
> in
> > the south. Metrolink, of course, would be happy
> to
> > use HSR money for track upgrades and
> > electrification, but Palmdale is still 62 miles
> > driving distance (and more, curvy, rail miles)
> > from downtown LA. Metrolink currently takes
> more
> > than 2 hours, though that of course includes
> many
> > stops; but it's just not suitable even for
> > moderately high speed use.

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