Re: CEQA as Applied to Electric Rail? You too can save the world!
Author: BOB2
Date: 03-21-2024 - 16:14

Commenter Wrote:
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> Another organization I didn't know existed,
> Californians for Electric Rail.
>
> [calelectricrail.org]
> eaner-better-rail-part-1-introduction-to-ceqa/

Never heard of them? This is another apparently well funded set of mouths who are busy nowadays, burbling away at the environmental and transportation agency meetings, about the need to electrify all railroads with overhead catenary...

As best I can tell, they're apparently part of the "no contractor left behind" program, promoting the view that only electrified trains powered by electric "wires" can count as ZEV technologies.

They are also often very vocal opponents of other "clean" locomotive electrification technologies like the evil conspiracy to use fuel cell/capacitor electric locomotives, using hydrogen to make the electricity without costly wire installations. Often you will also find them spouting a lot of anti hydrogen nonsense. And uysing scary rhetoric such as, that we must protect ourselves from "evil" hydrogen, because it is what blew up the Hindenberg.... Not to mention "hydrogen" "bombs" which will blow up the whole world... This kind of nonsense seems to appeal to today's new lower levels of paranoia and ignorance...

Welcome to the wonderful world of what are quite often secretly paid "astro-turf" community "front groups", bought, paid for, and used to promote policies beneficial to those who secretly pay the bills, and claiming they are saving us from such "evils" as the vast hydrogen conspiracy...



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  CEQA as Applied to Electric Rail Commenter 03-21-2024 - 14:41
  Re: CEQA as Applied to Electric Rail? You too can save the world! BOB2 03-21-2024 - 16:14
  Re: CEQA as Applied to Electric Rail? You too can save the world! Guest 03-21-2024 - 16:59
  Hydrogen trains are garbage Clem 03-21-2024 - 20:13
  Re: Hydrogen trains are garbage? Usual well researched sourcing on that? BOB2 03-21-2024 - 21:56
  Re: Hydrogen trains are garbage? Usual well researched sourcing on that? FUD 03-22-2024 - 11:03
  Re: Hydrogen trains are garbage? There you go again with that fact based universe again... Costs sometime matter more to taxpayers and consumers than with contractors and politicians BOB2 03-23-2024 - 09:23
  Speaking of innovative HSR. Any progress in developing non-wire diesels, hydrogen, veggie oil, whale poo, etc engines or trainsets that can run over 125 mph? Fossil fuels r good enuf 4 me 03-23-2024 - 22:44
  Re: Speaking of innovative HSR. Any progress in developing non-wire diesels, hydrogen, veggie oil, whale poo, etc engines or trainsets that can run over 125 mph? FUD 03-24-2024 - 08:43
  25 kV is the way Clem 03-24-2024 - 13:36
  Re: 25 kV is the way FUD 03-24-2024 - 18:12
  Re: 25 kV is the way Clem 03-24-2024 - 19:08
  Re: 25 kV is the way Yuppers 03-24-2024 - 20:32
  Re: 25 kV is the way- Lets' let the science and markets decide? BOB2 03-26-2024 - 11:54
  Re: 25 kV is the way Commenter 03-25-2024 - 13:02
  Re: Hydrogen trains are garbage Clem 03-24-2024 - 09:50
  Re: Hydrogen trains are garbage? LMAO--- Here, just to stir his pot, if you are going the APTA you can sign up for this... BOB2 03-24-2024 - 10:07
  Re: Hydrogen trains are garbage? LMAO--- Here, just to stir his pot, if you are going the APTA you can sign up for this... FUD 03-24-2024 - 10:23


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