Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc
Author: mook
Date: 12-27-2012 - 15:13

One glaring error in the article: in Sacramento at least nobody (if the ticket cops are around) rides for free. State workers get a discount - the same one they would get if they use any transit service anywhere in the state - 75% off the monthly pass cost up to $65 - after that it's on the employee. At Sacramento's current rate, a monthly pass is $35 for state workers, which is the going rate downtown for about 2 days' parking. Other employers especially downtown provide various incentives too, and I think most college students get the pass as part of their student ID card (for which there is a mandatory fee) each semester/quarter. The student thing is common; my daughter pays for a local transit pass as part of her ID card fee too, in a town where they run lots of buses to the campus (but many fewer elsewhere). Bottom line: except for those who would never pay anyway (just try getting money out of the turnip), nobody rides free.

Of course, for non-governmental employees especially transit pass incentives may be an endangered species soon. The business tax deduction (up to around $110/month I think) for doing that is one of the things that expires if we go over the fiscal cliff.

Strange connection between Sac and SJ: we have a small gaggle of your original light rail cars. Apparently RT picked some up for what the managers at the time thought was scrap value, as did Salt Lake City if I recall correctly. SLC rebuilt and used them on their starter line - rebuild was apparently cheaper than buying new. Don't know if any are still running. In Sac though they just sat rusting until a year or 2 ago. Some have now gone thru the local shop to figure out what needs to be fixed (a LOT, and most of it isn't just from sitting around for 10+ years), and a contract was recently announced to go thru all of them and make them usable. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be compatible with any of RT's existing cars so we'll have to wait and see what use actually get made of them.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 14:10
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Gene 12-27-2012 - 15:13
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc mook 12-27-2012 - 15:16
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 15:18
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc mook 12-27-2012 - 15:25
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Brian Bergtold 12-27-2012 - 19:37
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc RG 12-28-2012 - 12:13
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc TANSTAAFL 12-28-2012 - 12:49
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc mook 12-27-2012 - 15:13
  and 25 yrs from now... yup 12-27-2012 - 15:37
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 15:38
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... Drew Jacksich 12-27-2012 - 16:52
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 17:01
  Re: Drew... Jon 12-27-2012 - 18:38
  Re: SJLR Mistertower 12-27-2012 - 19:19
  Re: Drew... Drew Jacksich 12-28-2012 - 18:08
  Extension to Loose Gaters Drew Jacksich 12-28-2012 - 18:22
  Re: Extension to Loose Gaters Carol L. Voss 12-28-2012 - 20:48
  How is Lou's? Drew Jacksich 12-28-2012 - 21:01
  Re: How is Lou's? Carol L. Voss 12-28-2012 - 21:08
  Re: Ed's Fine Foods? Jon 12-28-2012 - 21:41
  Re: Ed's Fine Foods? Carol L. Voss 12-29-2012 - 18:08
  Re: Ed's Fine Foods? Connor 05-11-2020 - 08:40
  Re: Drew... HUTCH 7.62 12-29-2012 - 10:02
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... HUTCH 7.62 12-27-2012 - 19:26
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 19:37
  Re: Evil Thomas Must Be Stopped? BOB2 12-27-2012 - 21:20
  Re: Evil Thomas Must Be Stopped? Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 21:42
  Re: Evil Thomas Must Be Stopped? Gene 12-27-2012 - 21:53
  Re: Evil Thomas Must Be Stopped? Carol L. Voss 12-27-2012 - 22:19
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... RG 12-28-2012 - 11:50
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... yup 12-28-2012 - 13:08
  Re: and 25 yrs from now... mook 12-29-2012 - 20:01
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc DCMcGill 12-27-2012 - 22:09
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years: inefficient: land speculation did this Margaret (SP fan) 12-28-2012 - 00:39
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years: inefficient: land speculation did this fkrock 12-28-2012 - 09:49
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years: inefficient: land speculation did this mook 12-29-2012 - 20:21
  Re: SMART Sucks Too=All Trains Suck? BOB2 12-28-2012 - 00:51
  Re: SMART Sucks Too=All Trains Suck? Tie Plate 12-28-2012 - 07:59
  Re: SMART Sucks Too=All Trains Suck? bastatim 12-28-2012 - 09:04
  Re: SMART Sucks Too=All Trains Suck? BOB2 12-28-2012 - 09:17
  Re: SMART Sucks Too=All Trains Suck? yup 12-28-2012 - 11:14
  Re: SMART Sucks Too=All Trains Suck? synonymouse 12-28-2012 - 11:52
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc RG 12-28-2012 - 12:02
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc DUH 12-28-2012 - 13:38
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc RG 12-28-2012 - 14:23
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc DUH 12-28-2012 - 14:49
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc MRGUY 12-28-2012 - 15:59
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Charley On The MTA 12-29-2012 - 01:14
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 12-29-2012 - 12:10
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-29-2012 - 14:25
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 12-29-2012 - 15:42
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Outsider 12-29-2012 - 15:47
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 12-29-2012 - 15:53
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-29-2012 - 17:59
  Re: It all makes sense to me Jon 12-29-2012 - 19:07
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-29-2012 - 17:57
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 12-29-2012 - 18:58
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-29-2012 - 19:41
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 12-29-2012 - 19:46
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol . Voss 12-29-2012 - 20:38
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc mook 12-29-2012 - 20:27
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Carol L. Voss 12-29-2012 - 20:39
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Michael Mahoney 12-31-2012 - 17:18
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 01-01-2013 - 09:03
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Dan 01-02-2013 - 17:43
  Re: San Jose's Light Rail after 25 years----inefficient etc Drew Jacksich 01-03-2013 - 13:25
  looking for amir willie 12-30-2012 - 08:58


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