Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it.
Author: HUTCH 7.62
Date: 01-19-2014 - 08:47

Max Wyss Wrote:
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> We are comparing rather different things here. The
> NEC is a medium-distance operation, whereas
> Caltrain on the peninsula is short distance
> operation (more like an S-Bahn).
>
> The requirements are therefore completely
> different. Accelleration is not as important in
> medium-distance operation, where a higher
> sustained speed and some flexibilty in train
> length is of higher importance. S-Bahn-style
> operation requires good accelleration, and many
> doors for short station dwell time. And that's
> something the current application simply can not
> provide, even if you have a Vectron or a TRAXX
> every four or so cars. Note that a Vectron or
> TRAXX can haul way more cars, even at speeds of
> 200 km/h, but it takes its time to reach that
> speed, and a lot of time is left getting from 0 to
> 80 km/h…
>
> Therefore, the preference for EMU is not
> "bureaucratic", it is based on sound
> requirements.
>
> For medium to long-distance operation, there are
> fewer advantages of EMUs over loco hauled stock,
> and to some extent it is also a bit a question of
> fashion (assumed that the loco-hauled stock
> operation is actually push-pull, otherwise, it
> gets rather expensive because it requires a higher
> number of locomotives than with push-pull
> operation (actually, the number of trains needed
> for a service pattern plus 2), and it will need
> more staff at the terminals.
>
> Now, if the Caltrain cars are rather young, they
> still could be used on other services, or they
> would have a decent resale value. They most likely
> would not end up on the scrapyard.

Makes sense. When SP ran the line they ran shorter trains often with two locomotives. The Trainmasters found a niche here with there fast acceleration. SP even modified the electrical system of SDP-45's so that they accelerate faster. Back then the ridership was lower Caltrain is currently running 130 percent over capacity on most rush hour trains.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. HUTCH 7.62 01-18-2014 - 22:40
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. Max Wyss 01-19-2014 - 04:20
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. Ed Workman 01-19-2014 - 07:56
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. Max Wyss 01-19-2014 - 08:34
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. HUTCH 7.62 01-19-2014 - 08:47
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Jon 01-19-2014 - 09:02
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Rich Hunn 01-19-2014 - 09:26
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Max Wyss 01-19-2014 - 10:24
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Margaret (SP fan) 01-19-2014 - 11:29
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Max Wyss 01-19-2014 - 11:58
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Chris Walker 01-19-2014 - 22:41
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Rich Hunn 01-20-2014 - 09:27
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. mook 01-20-2014 - 09:48
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Rich Hunn 01-20-2014 - 10:02
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. mook 01-20-2014 - 10:08
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. HUTCH 7.62 01-20-2014 - 10:22
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Max Wyss 01-20-2014 - 12:01
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. mook 01-20-2014 - 15:04
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Max Wyss 01-19-2014 - 10:17
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. fkrock 01-19-2014 - 11:28
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? :( Margaret (SP fan) 01-19-2014 - 11:59
  Crash protection Eugene 01-19-2014 - 12:06
  Re: Crash protection synonymouse 01-19-2014 - 12:23
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? :( Max Wyss 01-19-2014 - 12:25
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? Margaret (SP fan) 01-19-2014 - 13:49
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? mook 01-19-2014 - 15:12
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? Margaret (SP fan) 01-19-2014 - 16:05
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I get it. Brian 01-19-2014 - 12:28
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? OK I get it now Ed Workman 01-19-2014 - 16:33
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. BOB R 01-19-2014 - 20:12
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. John Bromley 01-20-2014 - 12:07
  Re: Caltrain EMU's ???? I don't get it. Mike Swanson 01-23-2014 - 18:15


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