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Re: Relief Crew
Author: BNSF Retiree
Date: 08-10-2016 - 15:04
theconductor Wrote:
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> Craig Tambo Wrote:
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> > With Amtrak, each crew member is given the
> option
> > of asking to be relieved. Sometimes the entire
> > crew asks for relief, sometimes only one or two
> > individuals do so, or maybe none of them do. It
> > just depends on individual temperment, and what
> > they saw or had to deal with. A look in the eye
> > from someone an instant from being killed, or
> > walking back and finding a severed head or a
> dead
> > baby effects everyone differently, and no two
> > incidents are the same.
>
> This pretty much sums it up. It's a tough call. On
> my last incident, it wasn't just the act of
> running a man over that took its toll on me, but
> what happens next. I was interviewed by the city
> police, then the CHP, then the railroad police,
> then the UP manager. Just when I thought that was
> over, while waiting for a relief crew we were
> interviewed by the claims agent while she was
> there pulling the TIR tape.
>
> After seeing it happen, then rehashing the story
> so many times over a few hours, I was done. We did
> pull the train off of crossings while waiting for
> relief though.
>
> I don't see why one person couldn't have
> interviewed us and passed along the information.
This next is way off the original topic but your experience is one of the more extreme examples. If you don't mind, which road do you work for? If BNSF, just identify as SOCAL or NORCAL. If UP, you're either in the LASU or RSVSU. My last encounter prior to retirement was in Bakersfield some years back when we still operated our stack trains on the UP. It was real early in the morning and we just boarded at Baker and Sumner headed North. We just got across Baker and into the 25 mph curve when a body dropped off a train stopped on the Southbound main. He rolled right on to the track in front of us and we rolled over him. Amazingly, the guy was still alive but cut up into three pieces (right leg plus both hands severed). After the PD and EMTs arrived, the RR managers came up and wanted to know if we wanted relief. We agreed and that was all there was to it. All the statements needed by the EMT, PD, and other first responders was handled by the manager. In a couple of days the claims agent called us to get our story and to tell us the guy died during emergency surgery. Never heard another thing. When we were relieved, the patch crew hadn't shown up yet but I know the train was released way before 4 hours all this while sitting on Baker St.
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> Craig Tambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With Amtrak, each crew member is given the
> option
> > of asking to be relieved. Sometimes the entire
> > crew asks for relief, sometimes only one or two
> > individuals do so, or maybe none of them do. It
> > just depends on individual temperment, and what
> > they saw or had to deal with. A look in the eye
> > from someone an instant from being killed, or
> > walking back and finding a severed head or a
> dead
> > baby effects everyone differently, and no two
> > incidents are the same.
>
> This pretty much sums it up. It's a tough call. On
> my last incident, it wasn't just the act of
> running a man over that took its toll on me, but
> what happens next. I was interviewed by the city
> police, then the CHP, then the railroad police,
> then the UP manager. Just when I thought that was
> over, while waiting for a relief crew we were
> interviewed by the claims agent while she was
> there pulling the TIR tape.
>
> After seeing it happen, then rehashing the story
> so many times over a few hours, I was done. We did
> pull the train off of crossings while waiting for
> relief though.
>
> I don't see why one person couldn't have
> interviewed us and passed along the information.
This next is way off the original topic but your experience is one of the more extreme examples. If you don't mind, which road do you work for? If BNSF, just identify as SOCAL or NORCAL. If UP, you're either in the LASU or RSVSU. My last encounter prior to retirement was in Bakersfield some years back when we still operated our stack trains on the UP. It was real early in the morning and we just boarded at Baker and Sumner headed North. We just got across Baker and into the 25 mph curve when a body dropped off a train stopped on the Southbound main. He rolled right on to the track in front of us and we rolled over him. Amazingly, the guy was still alive but cut up into three pieces (right leg plus both hands severed). After the PD and EMTs arrived, the RR managers came up and wanted to know if we wanted relief. We agreed and that was all there was to it. All the statements needed by the EMT, PD, and other first responders was handled by the manager. In a couple of days the claims agent called us to get our story and to tell us the guy died during emergency surgery. Never heard another thing. When we were relieved, the patch crew hadn't shown up yet but I know the train was released way before 4 hours all this while sitting on Baker St.
