Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory
Author: mook
Date: 01-07-2017 - 20:55

Dual-power locomotives have been talked about many times, but seldom are built. They have too many compromises. GE in fact offered at one point to build them for freight operators when there was semi-serious talk of requiring electrification of the LA Basin - at a huge premium that effectively priced them as 2 locomotives in one. The only ones currently in use in the US are dual diesel & 3rd-rail electrics on Metro-North & LIRR, and some Alsthom(?) dual diesel/overhead units on NJ Transit.

Freight will never again be significant on the SF Peninsula, but there are several customers that can and do still use it. Freight operators for that amount of traffic would best be drawn from the major shortline operators, and would use diesels simply for flexibility (and not having to pay the JPB for electricity used!). Same as on LIRR, where NY&A uses diesels for the same reasons. They could, of course, be "encouraged" to use only Tier 4 or (as they're developed) better engines, and unlike UP would have only a few units to manage so DEF-based engines could be used if necessary, and JPB-specified PTC could be installed without having to deal with UP's system-wide usage issues.

What I haven't seen in the comments etc. is whether UP is fully backing out - i.e. abandoning freight service - or simply saying that they will agree to assign their freight rights to somebody else rather than insisting on continuing to run on the Peninsula lines. Makes a difference.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Bill 01-06-2017 - 09:04
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Nudge 01-06-2017 - 10:39
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory HUTCH 7.62 01-06-2017 - 10:45
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Reality 01-06-2017 - 10:58
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Bill 01-06-2017 - 11:39
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory mook 01-06-2017 - 13:13
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Justo 01-06-2017 - 11:16
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory synonymouse 01-06-2017 - 11:47
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Justo 01-06-2017 - 11:53
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Michael the Train Guy 01-06-2017 - 11:59
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Espee2472 01-06-2017 - 12:06
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Commenter 01-06-2017 - 12:31
  Re: Why ?? Nudge 01-06-2017 - 13:04
  Re: Why ?? Bill 01-06-2017 - 13:52
  Re: Why ?? Espee2472 01-06-2017 - 14:03
  Re: Why ?? Bill 01-06-2017 - 14:08
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory wsabo 01-06-2017 - 12:53
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory An Observer 01-06-2017 - 14:26
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Espee2472 01-06-2017 - 14:51
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory synonymouse 01-06-2017 - 16:17
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory mook 01-06-2017 - 18:07
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Jon 01-07-2017 - 11:03
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory Max Wyss 01-07-2017 - 15:32
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory mook 01-07-2017 - 20:55
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory - always RTFA mook 01-07-2017 - 20:57
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory - always RTFA Durmid 01-09-2017 - 19:56
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory - always RTFA mook 01-09-2017 - 20:45
  Re: UP agrees to back out of Caltrain territory - always RTFA Clem 01-12-2017 - 21:07


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