Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? And, from "real" wikipedia
Author: BOB2
Date: 05-21-2019 - 14:30

Definitions in American context from Wikipedia...

Authorities in the United States maintain various definitions of high-speed rail. The definitions range from rail services with top speeds of 110 miles per hour (180 km/h) to 150 miles per hour (240 km/h) or higher by the United States Department of Transportation which is an entity in the executive branch,[5] while the United States Code, which is the official codification of Federal statutes, defines them as the rail services with "reasonably expected to reach sustained speeds of more than 125 miles per hour".[6] A legislative branch agency within the Library of Congress, the Congressional Research Service, used different terms to clarify the confusion by defining the rail services with top speeds less than 150 mph (240 km/h) to be higher-speed rail.[1] There is no current train service in the United States which meets all of the domestic criteria for high-speed rail. Amtrak's Acela Express is classified as "higher-speed rail" in the Congressional Research Service report by virtue of being on shared tracks, whereas page 5 of that report also requires dedicated tracks to be classified as "very high speed rail".[1]

For transportation planning purposes focussing on the development of high-speed rail, the United States Department of Transportation (USDOT) distinguishes four types of intercity passenger rail corridors:[9]

High-Speed Rail – Express: Frequent, express service between major population centers 200–600 miles (320–965 km) apart, with few intermediate stops. Top speeds of at least 150 mph (240 km/h) on completely grade-separated, dedicated rights-of-way (with the possible exception of some shared track in terminal areas). Intended to relieve air and highway capacity constraints.

High-Speed Rail – Regional: Relatively frequent service between major and moderate population centers 100–500 miles (160–800 km) apart, with some intermediate stops. Top speeds of 125–150 mph (201–240 km/h), grade-separated, with some dedicated and some shared track (using positive train control technology). Intended to relieve highway and, to some extent, air capacity constraints.

Emerging High-Speed Rail: Developing corridors of 100–500 miles (160–800 km), with strong potential for future HSR Regional and/or Express service. Top speeds of up to 90–110 mph (145–177 km/h) on primarily shared track (eventually using positive train control technology), with advanced grade crossing protection or separation. Intended to develop the passenger rail market, and provide some relief to other modes.

Conventional Rail: Traditional intercity passenger rail services of more than 100 miles with as little as one to as many as 7–12 daily frequencies; may or may not have strong potential for future high-speed rail service. Top speeds of up to 79 mph (127 km/h) to as high as 90 mph (140 km/h) generally on shared track. Intended to provide travel options and to develop the passenger rail market for further development in the future.


With so many folks that I've apparently got all riled up, over the simple premise of Branson's "business plan", it not a "real" high speed and all, and just because I'm such a "Mr. Right" kind of an ornery old a$$hole, because I actually am "right". I thought that some of you folks who would still like to keep more of their money, than the "gubmint" will probably need to take in order to complete the runaway money train, would like to see what the "real" "Wikipedia" actually says.



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  Branson's Virgin Brightline ron 05-21-2019 - 10:06
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline synonymouse 05-21-2019 - 10:19
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline Joe Cullum 05-21-2019 - 11:01
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline synonymouse 05-21-2019 - 11:16
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline Joe Cullum 05-21-2019 - 18:24
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline-Look CNBC there is High Speed Rail in America... BOB2 05-21-2019 - 10:36
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline-Look CNBC there is High Speed Rail in America... les 05-21-2019 - 12:19
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline-Look CNBC there is High Speed Rail in America... heaven forbid 05-21-2019 - 12:31
  Re: Branson's Virgin doesn't help with our high speed "envy" issues... BOB2 05-21-2019 - 13:03
  Re: Branson's Virgin doesn't help with our high speed "envy" issues... J Mann 05-21-2019 - 14:14
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline-Look CNBC there is High Speed Rail in America... david vartanoff 05-21-2019 - 12:23
  Re: Branson's Virgin Isn't "real" high speed... Not the manly virile kind of "real" high speed rail like CAHSRA is building, right?.. BOB2 05-21-2019 - 12:43
  Conventional Rail it is wiki says 05-21-2019 - 13:00
  Re: Conventional Rail it is the CHHSRA PR staff working through lunch today??? What is the FRA definition, and was that wiki, or wikileaks? BOB2 05-21-2019 - 13:06
  Re: Conventional Rail it is the CHHSRA PR staff working through lunch today??? What is the FRA definition, and was that wiki, or wikileaks? mr right 05-21-2019 - 13:29
  Apples to apples is always a better comparison. Are they both golden Delicious 05-21-2019 - 13:34
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? BOB2 05-21-2019 - 13:35
  FRA has a very narrow view of what HSR is. expand your horizons 05-21-2019 - 14:12
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? And, from "real" wikipedia BOB2 05-21-2019 - 14:30
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? And, from "real" wikipedia FUD 05-21-2019 - 15:47
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? And, from "real" wikipedia les 05-22-2019 - 14:35
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? No "real" HSR on Virgin Bightline? WTF? BOB2 05-22-2019 - 16:23
  enlighten me, please les 05-22-2019 - 17:24
  Re: enlighten me, please -is that really my job? I gave you "real" wikipedia, how's that? BOB2 05-22-2019 - 18:26
  Re: enlighten me, please -is that really my job? I gave you "real" wikipedia, how's that? les 05-22-2019 - 20:05
  Re: Stupid BOB! I sure lit your fuse tonight....so I must be doing something right.... BOB2 05-22-2019 - 22:33
  Re: enlighten me, please -is that really my job? I gave you "real" wikipedia, how's that? Max Wyss 05-24-2019 - 09:04
  Re: enlighten me, please -is that really my job? I gave you "real" wikipedia, how's that? Mohsin Memon 04-13-2020 - 07:56
  Re: enlighten me, please -is that really my job? I gave you "real" wikipedia, how's that? Mohsin Memon 05-01-2020 - 06:33
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? No "real" HSR on Virgin Bightline? WTF? les 05-22-2019 - 17:36
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? No "real" HSR on Virgin Bightline? WTF? FUD 05-22-2019 - 22:17
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? And, from "real" wikipedia david vartanoff 05-21-2019 - 16:30
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? And, from "real" wikipedia Max Wyss 05-22-2019 - 04:26
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? Clem 05-21-2019 - 18:37
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? synonymouse 05-21-2019 - 19:27
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? les 05-21-2019 - 21:23
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? Max Wyss 05-22-2019 - 04:29
  Re: What is the FRA definition of HSR? Max Wyss 05-22-2019 - 04:16
  Re: Branson's Virgin Brightline-Look CNBC there is High Speed Rail in America... Max Wyss 05-22-2019 - 04:12


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