Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....?
Author: LES
Date: 07-28-2021 - 15:55

BOB2 Wrote:
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> LMAO.... Les do they have you on overtime?
I wish. I could use a new car.

> So you think that the "runaway money train" is
> going to ve compete for all of that all of that 20
> billion, in those other programs....

I could easily see California snagging a couple billion. Why not? They're way out in front
with EIRs.

> I'm laughing my ass off, because like with the
> State budget, the Federal bill has failed to
> create any categorical program for the CHSRA's
> runaway money train... And, in my discusson with
> Padilla's office this morning we specifically
> discussed the importance of checks and balances,
> so projects don't lie and "low ball" cost
> estimates, to put taxpayer's on the "hook" for
> project cost overruns, that would have to come out
> of other projects...

Good for you. Glad to see.

>
> A good amount of the completely inadquate grade
> crossing money is already committed across all
> fifty states.... And, depending on how the Amtrak
> component is divided up, and for what, the State
> programs are going to be very competitive. And,
> if my discussions on how the FTA cost benefit
> rankings could be used for allocating FRA funds
> had any effect this morning, and on the use of
> mixed funding for true "public-private"
> partnerships, then you'er more likely to see FRA
> funds go with thing like the locally preferred
> alternative from Brightliine, to Disney. Thagt is
> via the more expensive, but better "public
> benefit" option from Orlando Airport to Disney,
> and on to Tampa, in a "true" public/private
> partnership....

As of this morning: "It scraps previous plans to spend $20 billion to create an infrastructure financing authority, sources in both parties said. It had been intended to attract investment through private-public partnerships,"

Amtrak monies appear to be a separate pot from the 20 billion mentioned before and grade are only a small piece of the pot.

> I know, you will say that his is not really "true"
> HSR" to you and the contractors at the -"cost is
> no object"-"runaway money train", and I have faith
> you will defend the "will of the voters" (who
> were lied to...)and the poor CA taxpayers to be
> lied to and fleeced forever... And, do I really
> care...?

Well, I'm not exactly fond of helping out investors who have fleeced tax coffers through
corporate welfare so your wrong there. Scott didn't make his billions selling kool-aid you know.


> Go compete away with the "runaway money train"....
> There are many more cost effective projects with
> good cost benefits and political support competing
> against this bloated gold plated boondoggle....

I'm sure there is, but at least we're not in the process of throwing trillions into ill advised wars for a change. Finally a chance to blow some on the good ole USA.

> Maybe, that idea of State level reform
> legislation, the idea that you dismiss, because
> this is the most competently planned and executed
> visionay project in the history of mankind, could
> be used to actually help the bloated fat to be
> cut, so that a more realsitic, affordable, useful,
> "slimmed down" CA high speed rail option, can
> become more "competitive"?

Power to the people and what is righteous dude.

>
> Before the CAHSRA starts using ineligible and
> illegal Federal funds and State match to lobby for
> that $20 billion, let's see the bill language on
> how they will determine "competitive"
> eligibility....

Voting on amendments and language is occurring as I type. We'll know soon enough.

>
> Or, not... After all BAD BOB2 is one of those
> "slow thinking" "southerners", like our Sou Cal
> legislator's, right?

Slow, but has potential.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer LES 07-28-2021 - 14:04
  Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....? BOB2 07-28-2021 - 14:55
  Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....? LES 07-28-2021 - 15:55
  Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer "still" LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....? BOB2 07-28-2021 - 16:19
  Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer "still" LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....? LES 07-28-2021 - 16:29
  Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer "still" LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....? An Observer 07-28-2021 - 17:28
  Re: I love the slight of hand in that story.... Sure glad this project is so well managed.... BOB2 07-28-2021 - 17:46
  Re: Infrastructure Part 1 is One Step Closer "still" LMAO..... Sound's more like CAHSRA got dumped on, like with the State budget....? LES 07-28-2021 - 18:42
  Ha, they're getting there. They're at 17 billion by next year LES 07-28-2021 - 19:35
  Re: They're at 17 billion by next year???? LMAO.... You are working overtime aren't you? BOB2 07-28-2021 - 21:48
  Re: They're at 17 billion by next year???? LMAO.... You are working overtime aren't you? FUD 07-28-2021 - 22:32
  Re: They're at 17 billion by next year???? LMAO.... You are working overtime aren't you? FUD 07-29-2021 - 08:18
  Re: They're at 17 billion by next year???? LMAO.... You are working overtime aren't you? LES 07-29-2021 - 12:52
  One beellion dollars Clem 07-29-2021 - 18:47
  Re: From the 118 to Lang under Saugus Mountain Clem BOB2 07-29-2021 - 20:53
  Re: From the 118 to Lang under Saugus Mountain Clem FUD 07-29-2021 - 22:02
  Re: Makes sense Clem 07-29-2021 - 22:10
  Re: Makes sense... Tight curves, Tehachipi, and Acton? BOB2 07-29-2021 - 23:17
  Re: Makes no sense... "Tehachipi" Bad Bob2? No 'chipi for me? No, just my troll again BOB2 07-30-2021 - 07:20
  Bad Bob2? The mentally ill troll is doing me, flattered again... BOB2 07-30-2021 - 08:01
  Re: From the 118 to Lang under Saugus Mountain Clem LES 07-30-2021 - 11:57
  Ah, the magic of CA going to 140,000,000 annual passengers?....? And, pre Covid Amtrak's "record" year was IIRC somewhere around 37 million? BOB 07-30-2021 - 15:35
  Re: Ah, the magic of CA going to 140,000,000 annual passengers?....? And, pre Covid Amtrak's "record" year was IIRC somewhere around 37 million? Lets take a look. 07-30-2021 - 16:32
  oops, that was LES, LMAO. also, err--> lightings should be alightings LES 07-30-2021 - 18:45


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