Re: Responding To Hogger
Author: Jan van Eck
Date: 03-08-2009 - 17:38

I would amplify further your astute observations by noting that the behavior of the "Ricky Gates" engineers of the world are criminal in nature. I suspect that the breakdown in oversight and control is that the workmates of these irresponsible fellows simply choose not to view this as criminal behavior. I also suspect a good number of people either saw, or knew about, these football-game parties going on in the cab - and most likely this was one of a whole series of such get-togethers. Yet those people said and did nothing. Why is that? I can only conclude that the other viewers are not looking at this as criminality.

Transport is not an industry where slacking off is an option. Whether an aircraft driver, an engineer, or a bus operator, personal discipline has to be the order of the day. Breaking this behavioral chain of demonstrated recklessness is not feasible by supervisors alone, nor by cameras in the cab, nor by random drug tests - it is, I suspect, only broken when everyone - every single employee - recognizes that such breaches are just as criminal as breaking into a house or doing a mugging on the street.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Chatsworth revisited d 03-04-2009 - 09:46
  List of exhibits [link] OPRRMS 03-04-2009 - 11:54
  Re: List of exhibits [link] OPRRMS 03-04-2009 - 13:26
  Re: Chatsworth revisited John Bruce 03-04-2009 - 14:21
  Re: Chatsworth revisited Mike 03-04-2009 - 14:28
  A Second Engineer Would Have Told Sanchez To Pound Sand Holly Gibson 03-04-2009 - 15:39
  Re: A Second Engineer Would Have Told Sanchez To Pound Sand david vartanoff 03-04-2009 - 17:49
  Re: A Second Engineer Would Have Told Sanchez To Pound Sand WAF 03-04-2009 - 18:41
  Re: A Second Engineer Would Have Told Sanchez To Pound Sand John Galt 03-04-2009 - 19:03
  Re: A Second Engineer Would Have Told Sanchez To Pound Sand Earl 03-05-2009 - 09:50
  Re: Chatsworth revisited OPRRMS 03-04-2009 - 18:48
  This $200 Device Probably Would Have Prevented The Chatsworth Wreck Holly Gibson 03-04-2009 - 20:41
  Rules Compliance J 03-05-2009 - 05:21
  Re: Rules Compliance John Bruce 03-05-2009 - 07:50
  Re: Rules Compliance J 03-05-2009 - 10:46
  Re: Rules Compliance Ed Von Nordeck 03-05-2009 - 20:12
  Re: Rules Compliance John Bruce 03-06-2009 - 08:39
  Re: Rules Compliance Dr Zarkoff 03-06-2009 - 17:53
  Re: Rules Compliance not Zarkoff 03-07-2009 - 11:00
  Re: This $200 Device Probably Would Have Prevented The Chatsworth Wreck crmeatball 03-05-2009 - 11:44
  Re: This $200 Device Probably Would Have Prevented The Chatsworth Wreck hogger 03-05-2009 - 12:13
  Re: 'hogger' and insight Steven D. Johnson 03-05-2009 - 21:36
  Re: Chatsworth revisited Extra Board 03-05-2009 - 21:31
  Responding To Hogger Holly Gibson 03-06-2009 - 04:29
  Re: Responding To Hogger hogger 03-06-2009 - 07:14
  Re: Responding To Hogger Dr Zarkoff 03-06-2009 - 11:26
  Re: Responding To Hogger BOB2 03-06-2009 - 12:39
  Re: Responding To Hogger Dr Zarkoff 03-06-2009 - 15:29
  Re: Responding To Hogger z 03-06-2009 - 18:22
  Re: Responding To Hogger Dr Zarkoff 03-06-2009 - 18:55
  Re: Responding To Hogger OldPoleBurner 03-07-2009 - 13:34
  Re: Responding To Hogger Dr Zarkoff 03-07-2009 - 23:22
  Re: Responding To Hogger Jan van Eck 03-08-2009 - 17:38
  A Conductor Can't Be In Multiple Places Simultaneously Holly Gibson 03-12-2009 - 14:13
  Re: A Conductor Can't Be In Multiple Places Simultaneously GRRR 03-13-2009 - 10:38


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