Re: "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself....." And, no, the Stadler's are unlikely to be the next Hindenburg disaster......
Author: BOB2
Date: 04-06-2024 - 09:17

Re: EV FUD for fun and profit
Author: reader
Date: 04-06-2024 - 06:20

Someone I know got a used Chevy Volt and seems to like it. Says it’s good for short and medium range use. Maybe I’m wrong, but I still feel nervous about parking one in a home garage for fear of a battery fire. I know that fires are rare.


Since I use data, math, and science to determine or estimate likely outcomes...

Here's the data on car fire risk by vehicle type...

Electric vehicles: 25 fires per 100,000 sold
Gas-powered cars: 1,530 fires per 100,000 sold
Hybrid cars: 3,475 fires per 100,000 sold

The study also reviewed the number of fire-related vehicle recalls that were “filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in 2020.” Gas-powered cars had by far the most number of recalls. EVs were second for recalls, and hybrids were a distant third. However, something to keep in mind is that the researchers only collected recall data in 2020, which was before the Chevy Bolt recalls during last year.

This exagerated "danger" about is similar to the nonsense we were fed in the 90's and 2000's about the "risks" of CNG fires in cars and trucks. Actual data showed that CNG vehicles were less prone to fires than gasoline vehicles.

Now, you are hearing the same crap about how "evil" "dangerous" hydrogen, which is a "highly flamable" gas (You know about what happened to the Hindenburg, right?...)... Since this is a rail chat board, we've heard a lot about this sort of nonsense, about hydrogen fuel cell rail vehicles like the "evil" hydrogen fuel cell Stadler's...

As my favorite American philosopher, the late George Carlin, used to like to say: "It's bullshit, and it's bad for you....)

Better safety design of all vehicles has cause the annual number of car fires to fall by nearly 2/3rds since 1980 for all cars.

As another great American once said: "The only thing you have to fear, is fear itself...."



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  EV FUD for fun and profit Commenter 04-04-2024 - 13:33
  Re: EV FUD for fun and profit FUD 04-04-2024 - 14:39
  Re: EV FUD for fun and profit Clem 04-04-2024 - 20:49
  Re: EV FUD for fun and profit reader 04-06-2024 - 06:20
  Re: EV FUD for fun and profit FUD 04-06-2024 - 09:15
  Re: EV FUD for fun and profit reader 04-06-2024 - 11:44
  Re: "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself....." And, no, the Stadler's are unlikely to be the next Hindenburg disaster...... BOB2 04-06-2024 - 09:17
  ATTN: BOB2. Get down off your high horse. reader 04-06-2024 - 12:27
  I thought you should know... Commenter 04-06-2024 - 14:45
  A little more info Commenter 04-06-2024 - 15:41
  Odd how Mr. Data Science Math doesn't provide a link to his Data Science Math "Aktually it's the opposite!" study. And 2020 the year chosen as representative? Re: "We have nothing to fear I'd like to read the fine print 04-06-2024 - 16:39
  Do u still wear a mask? Or finally admit Fauci lied to us when he said masks prevent the spread of the China Flu Wilson 04-04-2024 - 14:45
  Re: Do u still wear a mask? Or finally admit Fauci lied to us when he said masks prevent the spread of the China Flu Hot Water 04-04-2024 - 15:00
  Valid questions and answers Commenter 04-04-2024 - 16:53
  Re: Valid questions and answers Hot Water 04-04-2024 - 17:46
  Re: Valid questions and answers Anonymous 04-04-2024 - 18:25
  Re: Actual Case Commenter 04-04-2024 - 19:59
  Re: Actual Case - a quick note Commenter 04-04-2024 - 20:06
  Re: Valid questions and answers Comrade Citizen 04-05-2024 - 04:59
  Re: Valid questions and answers virgo 04-05-2024 - 08:42
  Re: Valid questions and answers FUD 04-05-2024 - 11:56
  Re: Valid questions and answers? Trains can compete for 500 mile range auto trips in many places... Meanwhile.... BOB2 04-05-2024 - 12:46
  GOP is live & let live-u wanna drive an EV good 4 u. Dems are control freaks-Everyone must do as we say. u will be forced to buy an EV. Eliminate options. Totalitarians Leave us alone 04-05-2024 - 13:22
  Re: Did that reality check upset you so much that you switched from calling people communist's to Nazi's? BOB2 04-05-2024 - 13:46
  Hear! Hear! Commenter 04-05-2024 - 19:33
  Because "Oozing pus-filled" is such a mature, non-emotional response. Oh look, Bob gets to once again preen about how above it all independent he is. Anyone who disagrees with his view must surely not be science based or real. Turn off blowhard hypocrite mode 04-06-2024 - 16:11
  Re: Because a little snowflake had such a big meltdown.... My oh my.... Did I hit a nerve....???? LMAO....... BOB2 04-06-2024 - 18:00
  Re: Because a little snowflake had such a big meltdown.... My oh my.... Did I hit a nerve....???? LMAO....... Scientist 04-07-2024 - 10:15
  Re: Because a little snowflake had such a big meltdown.... My oh my.... Did I hit a nerve....???? LMAO....... BOB2 04-07-2024 - 22:15
  BOB X1 The other Bob 04-07-2024 - 23:23
  Re: BOB X1 BOB X2 04-08-2024 - 14:58
  Whose really having the meltdown? Re: Because a little snowflake had such a big meltdown.... My oh my.... Did I hit a nerve....???? LMAO....... Denigrates instead of answering 04-09-2024 - 15:42
  Re: Valid questions and answers Norway Ministry of Facts 04-04-2024 - 20:31
  Re: Valid questions and answers virgo 04-05-2024 - 08:31
  Re: Valid questions and answers, minor oops Commenter 04-05-2024 - 11:15
  90% of unicorn believers surveyed in SF, NY, London, Sydney, and Beijing support banning gasoline engines cuz scienze & stuff The board's useful idiot 04-04-2024 - 21:37
  Can we agree to disagree? Joe of the Angry 04-06-2024 - 16:41
  Re: Can we agree to disagree? Commenter 04-06-2024 - 19:58
  Re: @Commenter reader 04-07-2024 - 06:40
  Re: @Commenter Palatable 04-07-2024 - 07:25


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